Trip trading
10-08-2015, 06:18 PM
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Trip trading
"Open Time Restrictions For November: The company has informed the Association that they intend to place restrictions on UPA 20-C-2-b open time trips from the 20th of November onward. Restrictions will be varied by category dependent on staffing and operational need. The SSC has expressed their disagreement with this policy and is exploring options to address this issue. Please be aware that this restriction will force trips which operate over this period onto awarded lines and will generate additional open time to meet company targets on other dates. We encourage all bidders to ensure their lower bid groups have sufficient pool supply and flexibility with this in mind."
"UPA 20-C-2-b: Up to three percent (3%) of the Line Credit in any Category may remain unassigned, to facilitate trip-trading with Open Flying. Trips set aside for use as OE trips under Section 20-C-2-a shall not count towards this limit."
Can someone who's more seasoned please explain what this means as we go forward to bid this month? Specifically, I don't understand "encourage all bidders to ensure their lower bid groups have sufficient pool supply and flexibility with this in mind."
I also don't understand the statement, "this restriction will force trips which operate over this period onto awarded lines"
Thanks
"UPA 20-C-2-b: Up to three percent (3%) of the Line Credit in any Category may remain unassigned, to facilitate trip-trading with Open Flying. Trips set aside for use as OE trips under Section 20-C-2-a shall not count towards this limit."
Can someone who's more seasoned please explain what this means as we go forward to bid this month? Specifically, I don't understand "encourage all bidders to ensure their lower bid groups have sufficient pool supply and flexibility with this in mind."
I also don't understand the statement, "this restriction will force trips which operate over this period onto awarded lines"
Thanks
10-08-2015, 06:55 PM
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I think it means there will be very few if any open trips from the 20th onward. Any open trips will be prior to that date, so make sure you allow for it in later bid groups by preferencing what you want during that time frame instead of letting the computer decide for you.
but I was wrong once before....its bound to happen again.
but I was wrong once before....its bound to happen again.
10-08-2015, 08:43 PM
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"Open Time Restrictions For November: The company has informed the Association that they intend to place restrictions on UPA 20-C-2-b open time trips from the 20th of November onward. Restrictions will be varied by category dependent on staffing and operational need. The SSC has expressed their disagreement with this policy and is exploring options to address this issue. Please be aware that this restriction will force trips which operate over this period onto awarded lines and will generate additional open time to meet company targets on other dates. We encourage all bidders to ensure their lower bid groups have sufficient pool supply and flexibility with this in mind."
"UPA 20-C-2-b: Up to three percent (3%) of the Line Credit in any Category may remain unassigned, to facilitate trip-trading with Open Flying. Trips set aside for use as OE trips under Section 20-C-2-a shall not count towards this limit."
Can someone who's more seasoned please explain what this means as we go forward to bid this month? Specifically, I don't understand "encourage all bidders to ensure their lower bid groups have sufficient pool supply and flexibility with this in mind."
I also don't understand the statement, "this restriction will force trips which operate over this period onto awarded lines"
Thanks
"UPA 20-C-2-b: Up to three percent (3%) of the Line Credit in any Category may remain unassigned, to facilitate trip-trading with Open Flying. Trips set aside for use as OE trips under Section 20-C-2-a shall not count towards this limit."
Can someone who's more seasoned please explain what this means as we go forward to bid this month? Specifically, I don't understand "encourage all bidders to ensure their lower bid groups have sufficient pool supply and flexibility with this in mind."
I also don't understand the statement, "this restriction will force trips which operate over this period onto awarded lines"
Thanks
So with the odds being higher than normal that you will have to work Thanksgiving, the message is reinforcing that you bid appropriately. For example, in later bid groups where you bring Thanksgiving flying out of the PBS supply pool, make sure you sort (preference) those Thanksgiving trips. What that means is don't simply dump all the Thanksgiving trips in the L-- pool and forget about it. If you are a commuter, put the non-commutable Thanksgiving trips in the L-- pool and the commutable ones in a higher pool for example. If you have to work a Holiday, make sure your bid allows you to capture the best trip that your seniority can hold. In short, put the worst crap in the L-- bucket. Put the regular crap in the L- or higher bucket. Call the PBS hotline for help if you aren't sure how to do that.
10-09-2015, 06:07 AM
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It means that you will need a little bit more bidding power than normal to get Thanksgiving off. The company intends to be more aggressive than normal in having plenty of coverage for the Thanksgiving period. Trips operating over that period will be assigned during monthly bidding as opposed to a few of them being left in open flying for pick up or a reserve to cover. All of our bad press lately probably has the company in overdrive to protect Holiday flying now.
So with the odds being higher than normal that you will have to work Thanksgiving, the message is reinforcing that you bid appropriately. For example, in later bid groups where you bring Thanksgiving flying out of the PBS supply pool, make sure you sort (preference) those Thanksgiving trips. What that means is don't simply dump all the Thanksgiving trips in the L-- pool and forget about it. If you are a commuter, put the non-commutable Thanksgiving trips in the L-- pool and the commutable ones in a higher pool for example. If you have to work a Holiday, make sure your bid allows you to capture the best trip that your seniority can hold. In short, put the worst crap in the L-- bucket. Put the regular crap in the L- or higher bucket. Call the PBS hotline for help if you aren't sure how to do that.
So with the odds being higher than normal that you will have to work Thanksgiving, the message is reinforcing that you bid appropriately. For example, in later bid groups where you bring Thanksgiving flying out of the PBS supply pool, make sure you sort (preference) those Thanksgiving trips. What that means is don't simply dump all the Thanksgiving trips in the L-- pool and forget about it. If you are a commuter, put the non-commutable Thanksgiving trips in the L-- pool and the commutable ones in a higher pool for example. If you have to work a Holiday, make sure your bid allows you to capture the best trip that your seniority can hold. In short, put the worst crap in the L-- bucket. Put the regular crap in the L- or higher bucket. Call the PBS hotline for help if you aren't sure how to do that.
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