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Old 10-05-2015, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bestglide
Fox News? You can get this info from just about any source.
Don't forget race relations at a 40 year low.
Economy: weakest "recovery" in history. On brink of another recession.
Foreign policies? Laughable: alienating our allies and emboldening our enemies
Obutthole is indefensible. Going to go down as words potus ever!
When we look back and see how much he did more for Americas you may be the one suprised. From healthcare to the longest stretch of job growth. From bringing home our soldiers to increased goverment transparency.

Even in our industry he made meaningful accomplishments such as is his influence in leveled the playing field of representational elections.

Btw interesting that you bring up Solyndra, yet do not mention GM.
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Don't think so - history will not be so kind to Bush Jr. He'll be remembered for destabilising the Middle East and responsible for the greatest loss of civilian life since WWII. Firmly holding the top slot of worse POTUS ever. His brother doesn't even want to get cast in Jr. legacy.
Don't like the Bush twins either! But. Stand by by statement. BHO is the worst potus yet.
History will tell I suppose.
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Old 10-05-2015, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by El10
When we look back and see how much he did more for Americas you may be the one suprised. From healthcare to the longest stretch of job growth. From bringing home our soldiers to increased goverment transparency.

Even in our industry he made meaningful accomplishments such as is his influence in leveled the playing field of representational elections.

Btw interesting that you bring up Solyndra, yet do not mention GM.
Don't think there will be much left after this narcissistic pos is done with the transformation from a republic to a socialist heaven.
Our industry: wait till emission standards resulting from climate change kick in, hope you have a second career?
Didn't bring up solyndra, although it was another sotero failure.
Gm well have you looked at the used car market lately? Prices are skyrocketing, how do poor people afford used cars now?
Glad you like Barry from Honolulu I pray I'm wrong, but if I'm not there won't be much left to our nation as we keep new it....
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Old 10-05-2015, 06:29 PM
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Obama: Crimean Peninsula annexation
Obama: Nukes for Iran
Obama: Failed African foreign policy
Obama: Failed Arab Spring
Obama: Failed Arab Winter
Obama: Failed middle east foreign policy
Obama: Failed at leading NATO to push back soviet aggression
Obama: Failed Syrian foreign policy
Obama: Created new axis of evil (Syria-Russia-Iran)
Obama: IRS Scandal
Obama: AP wire tapping
Obama: Boston Terrorist
Obama: Dream Act/Illegal immigration continues unabated/increased
Obama: Solyndra
Obama: Fast and Furious
Obama: Obamacare: 716 Billion raided from Medicare
Obama: 49 million Americans on Foodstamps (WOW!)
Obama: Americans IN POVERTY!!! 7.2 million!!!!
Obama: family income and buying power down 40 percent
Obama: Americans out of work 23 million
Obama: National Debt 19ish trillion
Obama: Failed Isreal foreign policy
Obama: every child born in USA owes $3500.00 share of national debt.
Obama: Sanctuary cities
Obama: fails to enforce US National drug laws (Washington and Colorado get high)
Obama: I almost forgot: He allowed our Secretary of State to conduct classified business in her lavatory. Anyone else with a security clearance would be in jail and or dishonorably discharged.
George Bush: 9/11
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Old 10-05-2015, 07:03 PM
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George Bush: 9/11
I don't care for GB or his decision to go into Iraq but how was 9/11 his fault? That's like blaming BO for the housing collapse & the recession that followed.

People who blindly follow partisan politics are nothing more than sheep.
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Old 10-05-2015, 07:05 PM
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George Bush: 9/11
Right, because George W. was behind 9/11...

Dumbest rebuttal seen yet.
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Old 10-05-2015, 07:54 PM
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He was the Commander in Chief. His number one priority was national security. He failed. No conspiracies, no black helicopters, just command responsibility. There are a bunch of things that have happened on Obama's watch. I list just one that happened on Bush's watch. There are more, but one will be remembered more than any other.

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Originally Posted by APC225
He was the Commander in Chief. His number one priority was national security. He failed. No conspiracies, no black helicopters, just command responsibility. There are a bunch of things that have happened on Obama's watch. I list just one that happened on Bush's watch. There are more, but one will be remembered more than any other.
Wasn't it Clinton that was offered the opportunity to have OBL killed/arrested after the first WTC attack and decided it wasn't in the US interest?
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Originally Posted by APC225
He was the Commander in Chief. His number one priority was national security. He failed. No conspiracies, no black helicopters, just command responsibility. There are a bunch of things that have happened on Obama's watch. I list just one that happened on Bush's watch. There are more, but one will be remembered more than any other.
You are right. Absolutely right. But it was Bill Clinton that failed to get UBL when he had 4 separate opportunities. I am not a George Bush lover, but the entire genesis of the up-rising of the radical islamic movement started under Clinton. Clinton chose to ignore the problem. Ask Bill Clinton if he regrets not taking care of that. He's already admitted it three separate times on interviews. Bill gets either the credit or the blame, doesn't matter how you frame it, it is what it is.
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When we look back and see how much he did more for Americas you may be the one suprised. From healthcare to the longest stretch of job growth. From bringing home our soldiers to increased goverment transparency.

Even in our industry he made meaningful accomplishments such as is his influence in leveled the playing field of representational elections.

Btw interesting that you bring up Solyndra, yet do not mention GM.
Well, our healthcare premiums are up 40 percent. Obama-care is a bust in my opinion. we could keep our doctor, we could keep our current plans...Nope that was all a lie just to give us a health care tax (which it is according to the SCOTUS.

Our soldiers are not home. Our soldiers will be ginning up to go back to war in the middle east. ISIS is on the move. Iraq is now destabilized and dysfunctional. Syria's red-line has been crossed a few times and now Russia is the new proxy again, this time it's not in Afghanistan, but it's in a far more dangerous place for the world..It's in Syria with a three way partnership with Iran. And, oh by the way, our only Ally in the Middle East, Israel won't spit on Obama, much less answer the phone should he be stupid enough to even call.

Job growth is not actually growth. It's 40 percent less buying power. The real jobs are shipped overseas now. So, if you want to go to work assembling a car or lots of other factory work, better get a passport. The jobs availalbe today for low skilled and low educated people is not what it was. Very hard to raise a family on minimum wage (unless you make the minimum wage 50 dollars an hour).

As far as transparency goes....No sir. Not even a discussion. It's hide the salami every single day. Better send in a FOIA request to get anything, and then you'll get redacted pieces of statements.
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