Xjetter

completely agree with you. They should be focusing on finishing up those contracts. Im all for getting paid..but Im tired of pilots not seeing big picture. I understand we were all screwed. People all over the world are screwed every day. Im over the me me me attitude.

El10

FDP extensions? What issues are we having? The only issue I keep hearing about is how may pilots volunteer to extend for free. Sounds more like a pilot problem than a company one.

Sniper66

I would take contract 2000 plus 5 percent pay raise every January till the amendable day Jan 2019 with 20 percent B/C fund contributions



Bring it on

NFLUALNFL

I'm actually enjoying not hearing the platitudes, half-truths and insulting pablum.

APC225

Absolutely. Times are not very good very often. Of course he'd like to kick the can two years. At least there's the possibility the economy is worse then, oil is higher, ME flying is kicking our butts, and they cry poor. Say no, and negotiate this at the top of the curve. For once.

AllenAllert

Really - People all over the world are screwed every day.

I say, our contract is about ME, ME, ME. Almost 6 years into this merger and we're still no closer to getting it done. If we get our second contract it may cause the other employee groups to apply more pressure to get their contracts. If those employee groups need our help, let them ask and don't assume the need or want our help.

In fact, if we surrender to an extension, we may be hurting their cause as well as ours more than helping.

NO HONEYMOON FOR MUNOZ.

jsled

I'm gonna have to agree with my good buddy Mitch. Listening to extension offers costs nothing. The airline biz has had a good run. That could end tomorrow and will end at some point. What's the average time after amendment date for a new contract? That said, it would have to be $weet.

As for the other employee groups whose contracts are still out? That is not our problem. I have walked with FAs during their info picketing and fully support all our employee groups, but we sacrificed more than our share during the bk, and we should not finance their contracts in any way.

JMO. Flame away.

Sled

gettinbumped

Not only that, most of the FA's I talk to are not interested in a new contract. They are more angry at their union than they are with the company. I for one don't want to wait for a USAirways type bickering to get settled. The mechanics are a different story. Perhaps this is a move like Delta pulled last contract cycle to go early and first, thus forcing us to raise our costs. We all thought that was a genius move on their part that their pilots benefitted from.

I wonder if the union saw the offer and knew it wasn't enough, or just flat out said no we don't even want to hear it. Sure hope things haven't turned for the worse by 2017.

CousinEddie

The folks at CAT seem to be feeling it now.

Caterpillar job cuts: Bad news for China, Brazil, and U.S. economy - Fortune

baseball

I see it a bit differently.

The big picture I am viewing shows me that the company has been stalling with malace and forethought our "co-workers" over in in-flight and in maintenance. our union can't negotiate on their behalf. We pay dues for our union to negotiate for the pilots.

Now, regarding the "me me me" attitude. Well, I also see this differently. Management has had their way with all of the pilots industry wide for the last 25 years. The way I figure it, my house should have been paid off 14 years ago had management NOT been screwing us. So, it's time to take care of me, and if my union takes care of me, I think that all of the pilots will be taken care of. So, me-me-me is a good thing. greed is a good thing. You only negotiate what you can negotiate, but the market sets the value for what my and your skills and experience is worth, it's the union's job to capture that value and insure we get our fair share of the pie.

I don't see lawyers, doctors, engineers, or other professionals worrying about me me me attitude. They are trying to get fairly compensated for their years of training, experience, and judgment. So, me to. They call that the "me too clause."