Smisek was not the problem
09-24-2015, 07:15 AM
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Let's add their slowness in adapting to the current situation. They KNEW from the jump that their IT system which was based on Servers to a data Dump wouldn't fill the Bill. They Knew it Weeks befoe the last test, when they did the last Data test and the entire system crashed.. The new computer center at Elk Grove was already under construction. The Electronic log book is getting the once over by the FAA and it will work OR?
We'll quickly adopt the ELB United (S-UA) is already using.
I don't necessarily think Management was in over their heads as much as I think they were stubborn in wanting to ONLY do things Continental's way when much of S-CO's stuff wasn't "UP TO Snuff" for the operation we're running. (and it's still not!)
We'll quickly adopt the ELB United (S-UA) is already using.
I don't necessarily think Management was in over their heads as much as I think they were stubborn in wanting to ONLY do things Continental's way when much of S-CO's stuff wasn't "UP TO Snuff" for the operation we're running. (and it's still not!)
Why not migrate sCO to AMIS, and then once everybody is on an ELB, migrate to SCEPTRE if that was to be the end-state?
09-24-2015, 07:31 AM
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Scepter has plenty of scalability to it. I belive DAL has recently migrated to Scepter also. Has anyone used the new ELB on the 777 yet? How does it compare to the old ELB?
09-24-2015, 11:35 AM
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I think Smizek put "yes men" all around him. to both protect him and inoculate him from the peasants. the result was a man lost in his own ivory tower of incompetence surrounded by a quagmire of underperformers and underachievers.
09-24-2015, 11:45 AM
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Wow line pilots all cozy with the suits!
Personally I don't believe squat that a suit tells me. If it's not painted in our colors on our ramp, or listed in our contract, I tend to take everything they say with a grain of salt.
Over the last 20+ yrs I've heard lots of suits say lots of things and most have been BS. It carries about as much weight as a TK rumor.
Personally I don't believe squat that a suit tells me. If it's not painted in our colors on our ramp, or listed in our contract, I tend to take everything they say with a grain of salt.
Over the last 20+ yrs I've heard lots of suits say lots of things and most have been BS. It carries about as much weight as a TK rumor.
I wouldn't talk to either Jeff due to his arrogance or Lorenzo due to his breaking of ALPA. But, anyone else, I'd entertain what they had to say over lunch or a scotch. I actually had a captain invite Lorenzo into the cockpit. I left and went for a walk around the terminal. Same happened with Smizek. I went to the lav for while....seemed appropriate.
09-24-2015, 11:50 AM
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FWIW, I've had an airline CEO directly and personally lie to my face and have it exposed ---very publicly--- as a lie exactly a week later.
09-24-2015, 03:25 PM
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It would have been extra work for the Maintenance division to migrate the sub CO 777s over to AMIS and then start working on getting an ELB for SCEPTRE. That work would have cost Maintenance time and money as a division so they didn't want to do it. Unfortunately the buffoonery of our leadership lets such "good for the division - bad for the airline" decisions go all the time! So all of the increased crew cost that Flt Ops dealt with, all of the lost revenue due to extra DH segments, and all of the QOL destruction that the pilots endured dramatically exceeded the cost that would have been borne by Maintenance, but that doesn't matter. Maintenance still came in on budget!!
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