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Old 01-31-2016, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro2nd
The LECs are voting to send to the MEC for vote to include 2015 new hires in profit sharing for the 2015 year. It has already passed in some bases. If you want it, contact your local reps and urge them to send it to the MEC for final vote.
This.

Unfortunately, the specifics of the "company plan" are determined by the company and are not outlined in the UPA so ultimately all the MEC can do is:
1) Ask for some common sense. Widespread attention to the issue by passage at multiple LECs gives the union some additional voice in discussions.

2) Negotiate something more specific in the next contract
Considering that #2 is pretty much now off the table until 2019 (or later) all the eggs are in the #1 basket.
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
This.

Unfortunately, the specifics of the "company plan" are determined by the company and are not outlined in the UPA so ultimately all the MEC can do is:
1) Ask for some common sense. Widespread attention to the issue by passage at multiple LECs gives the union some additional voice in discussions.

2) Negotiate something more specific in the next contract
Considering that #2 is pretty much now off the table until 2019 (or later) all the eggs are in the #1 basket.
IMO a simple LOA is all that would be needed. Not like anyone is asking for more money from the company. Just the rest of us may get a couple less dollars so that everyone who contributed to the profit gets their percentage. The resolution already passed in IAH and a few others.
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I think it's an admirable cause but wouldn't get your hopes up. I went to the company website and it's spelled out very clearly that you need a full year to participate. I don't think they'll change the participation rule from one group and not the others.
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Old 01-31-2016, 06:46 PM
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I would like to see the new hires included.

Some of these guys will bid 777 F/O (or equivalent) after 24 months, and that will put them around $180.00 per hour.

That's what the heavy Captains were making here just a few short years ago.

So….I think they'll be fine either way!
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
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Unfortunately, the specifics of the "company plan" are determined by the company and are not outlined in the UPA so ultimately all the MEC can do is:
1) Ask for some common sense. Widespread attention to the issue by passage at multiple LECs gives the union some additional voice in discussions.

2) Negotiate something more specific in the next contract
Considering that #2 is pretty much now off the table until 2019 (or later) all the eggs are in the #1 basket.
Well, they gave the continental pilots profit sharing and there was nothing in the contract about that. Just sayin'
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Old 02-02-2016, 03:05 AM
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The profit sharing amount details are in your my info page on flying together.

13.0266 for pilots%
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Originally Posted by krudawg
Well, they gave the continental pilots profit sharing and there was nothing in the contract about that. Just sayin'
Yup, it all depends on the company's motivation.
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Old 02-02-2016, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
My math tells me

18-20k for First Officers average

And 25-27k average for Captains



Let's see
Amazing guess from waaaaay back in August.

Pretty close to what it turned out to be!

13%.

I'm just glad I don't have to listen to all the goofy guesses from guys who have NO idea how PS works anymore.

"Well, we made triple the profit so my check should be triple"
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I'm just glad I don't have to listen to all the goofy guesses from guys who have NO idea how PS works anymore.

"Well, we made triple the profit so my check should be triple"
Um.....isn't that pretty much how it all worked out in the end? Those guys were pretty close considering the claims of 18-22% that have been all over the forums by other guys that "calculated" the numbers.
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
Um.....isn't that pretty much how it all worked out in the end? Those guys were pretty close considering the claims of 18-22% that have been all over the forums by other guys that "calculated" the numbers.
Mine was 4.5 X 2014 numbers.

My point was that people were looking at the size of the profit sharing pool and doing basic math. That's not how it works at all.

There is a set formula, and we start accumulating more dramatically as we hit certain thresholds (of profit).

All the stupidity can end now. We have the number.

Does anyone know how much the average F/A gets? How about the average ramper and gate agent?

I'm just curious how our coworkers were paid.
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