New Hire Captains within 5 years
07-23-2015, 08:21 PM
#41
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'96 - 727 SO
'97 - 727 FO
'99 - guppy Captain
'00 - 727 Captain
'02 - 767 FO
'04 - Bus FO
It feels like the late 90s again after seeing the last few vacancy bids. We had a few where there were 750+ awards, and it seemed we had vacancy bids every month. United was hiring 25 per month for as long as I can remember.
Right up until the big furlough.
'97 - 727 FO
'99 - guppy Captain
'00 - 727 Captain
'02 - 767 FO
'04 - Bus FO
It feels like the late 90s again after seeing the last few vacancy bids. We had a few where there were 750+ awards, and it seemed we had vacancy bids every month. United was hiring 25 per month for as long as I can remember.
Right up until the big furlough.
We know you meant 25 per week
07-24-2015, 03:36 AM
#44
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aa73,
As you well know, there's reality for the few and then there's reality for the rest of us. At United today, there are several thousand pilots who have spent the last 15 years essentially marching in place. And here's the rich part, if you listen long enough, you'll find out that its our fault because WE made a poor decision to come to UA in the late 90's. Just like it was a poor decision by all the GIANTS who went to work at PanAm, TWA, and Eastern in the 50's and 60's. Idiots all, I suppose.
I've been chasing the brass ring for almost 30 years. Pretty sure that I saw it once or twice, but it was only those pilots far in front of me who were in a position to reach for it.
I'd bet that for every (relatively senior, young) wide body Captain living the high life, there are probably 50 guys who'll never get there. Perspective, both historic and relative is an important asset in this line of work, and its the first thing tossed in the can by many new hires and many of those contemplating the career.
This thread is entertaining.
As you well know, there's reality for the few and then there's reality for the rest of us. At United today, there are several thousand pilots who have spent the last 15 years essentially marching in place. And here's the rich part, if you listen long enough, you'll find out that its our fault because WE made a poor decision to come to UA in the late 90's. Just like it was a poor decision by all the GIANTS who went to work at PanAm, TWA, and Eastern in the 50's and 60's. Idiots all, I suppose.
I've been chasing the brass ring for almost 30 years. Pretty sure that I saw it once or twice, but it was only those pilots far in front of me who were in a position to reach for it.
I'd bet that for every (relatively senior, young) wide body Captain living the high life, there are probably 50 guys who'll never get there. Perspective, both historic and relative is an important asset in this line of work, and its the first thing tossed in the can by many new hires and many of those contemplating the career.
This thread is entertaining.
And hey, I missed the entire AA furlough by one (1) number so I don't complain too much!
Good luck youse guys.
73
07-24-2015, 08:03 AM
#45
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07-25-2015, 06:10 PM
#46
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Not sure there is a more destructive concept to your peace of mind than thinking about this. Maybe, maybe not. Certainly better odds than winning the lottery...unless oil spikes or some whack job does something stupid. Enjoy the ride. I am.
07-25-2015, 08:27 PM
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07-25-2015, 09:21 PM
#48
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You can drive yourself crazy thinking about the various permutations. But we're not ever going to be TWA new hires in 1964 at the front of the wave. Three years to 727 reserve Captain. Followed by 707 and then L1011 Captain in three more.
Who cares? This can be an amazing place to work if you enjoy flying and approach it with a good attitude. Bigger equipment? Left seat? Icing on the cake and take it all with a grain of salt.
Who cares? This can be an amazing place to work if you enjoy flying and approach it with a good attitude. Bigger equipment? Left seat? Icing on the cake and take it all with a grain of salt.
07-26-2015, 04:34 AM
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HA!
Hired in '98 when we had 3 yr capts. I'm still not even close. Don't kid yourself. Spend your down time building a second career.
It took years but now that second career replaces the income I had hoped to get as a 10 year capt and provides a backup plan for the next disaster that will inevitably strike (foreign ownership, cabotage, mismanagement.......)
Hired in '98 when we had 3 yr capts. I'm still not even close. Don't kid yourself. Spend your down time building a second career.
It took years but now that second career replaces the income I had hoped to get as a 10 year capt and provides a backup plan for the next disaster that will inevitably strike (foreign ownership, cabotage, mismanagement.......)
07-26-2015, 08:33 AM
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You can drive yourself crazy thinking about the various permutations. But we're not ever going to be TWA new hires in 1964 at the front of the wave. Three years to 727 reserve Captain. Followed by 707 and then L1011 Captain in three more.
Who cares? This can be an amazing place to work if you enjoy flying and approach it with a good attitude. Bigger equipment? Left seat? Icing on the cake and take it all with a grain of salt.
Who cares? This can be an amazing place to work if you enjoy flying and approach it with a good attitude. Bigger equipment? Left seat? Icing on the cake and take it all with a grain of salt.
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