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Old 08-26-2019, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
When you share the cockpit with myself I won’t be using it, period. No overinflated ego or whatever name you’d like to call me, just stating a fact.

Intransigence indeed !!
So what do you when your cockpit-mate has their headset on? Do you make them take it off? Seems like you are setting up the cockpit for a breakdown in CRM.
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Old 08-26-2019, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Not on the 757 anymore and I STILL don’t use it on the 737.
You sound like a really fun guy to fly with. I especially like flying with captains who are considerate...of their own thoughts and feelings. As long as you’re happy the pairing will surely go well. Good luck.
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Old 08-26-2019, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
Giant can of worms.

There are plenty of people who will stick around. One need look no further than the number of people who left when they hit 60. Which was what, 10 percent? 7?
Less. Having the opportunity to dissect every monthly SSC report while on furlough, the number was running around 3%. There were a lot of months where ~25 pilots turned 60 and there were zero retirements. And that retirement number included over age 60 pilots. Nor did retirements pick up when the leading edge hit 62 and became eligible for SS.
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Old 08-26-2019, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Social Security at 67 now. You can get partial bennies at 62 but full benefits for those born after 1960 will be 67. Just watch that number go to 70 down the road. For us young guys at/below 35, we won't have social security to look forward to.
I'll go out on a limb and say you're wrong. Completely wrong.

I can still remember my mother back in the 1960s stating that she'd never collect SS. She collected for ~18 years, until her death.

SS may get modified over the course of your career, but it won't be gone.
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Old 08-26-2019, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Name User
It sucks, butthat is the way social security is set up. It gets even worse for us, as when we retire our SS benefits will be taxed. Try to limit earned income in retirement via Roth accounts.
SS benefits have been subject to federal (and many state) taxes for a very long time. Likely since before you were born. They started being subject to federal taxation in 1984.
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Old 08-26-2019, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ipdanno
IF I were still an FO, and IF we had a pairing together (IF we worked for the same carrier), I would not reduce my use of ANC hearing protection for your convenience, for as long as we were paired up.

And I would gladly join you in the Chief’s office, if requested, to relate that my aural health is more important to me than ...... you.
Challenge accepted !!

Last time I checked there was no requirement to use the intercom system so what would your defense be? Bet you a whole wad of cash you’d be furiously tap dancing away explaining while you were removed from the trip in front of the CP for non-compliance. Guess that’s your call.
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Old 08-26-2019, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Davedave
You sound like a really fun guy to fly with. I especially like flying with captains who are considerate...of their own thoughts and feelings. As long as you’re happy the pairing will surely go well. Good luck.
I’ve heard I am but your results may vary.
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Old 08-26-2019, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gollum
So what do you when your cockpit-mate has their headset on? Do you make them take it off? Seems like you are setting up the cockpit for a breakdown in CRM.
Never once had to ask one to remove it and we get along splendidly.
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Old 08-26-2019, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Challenge accepted !!

Last time I checked there was no requirement to use the intercom system so what would your defense be? Bet you a whole wad of cash you’d be furiously tap dancing away explaining while you were removed from the trip in front of the CP for non-compliance. Guess that’s your call.
Halfway there. Need more reasons not to wear a headset NOR allow FOs to wear one!
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Old 08-26-2019, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ipdanno
Membership have been told that SWAPA assisted WN Flt Ops in recognizing the health benefits and inflight risk mitigation of noise-cancelling headsets. As a result, some years ago, every pilot at WN was Issued a TELEX 850 NC headset.



Many pilots still shell out of pocket—with SWAPA-negotiated discounts—for personal ‘high quality’ noise cancelling headsets. It’s a d*** noisy airplane, and we generally don’t settle for using the overhead speaker.



I mean hey, we don’t want folks thinking we’re L-UAL!


Well, crew communication is really such a small part of effective CRM. I mean... a headset purchase like that would take a big bite out of UAL stock buyback & bonuses.


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