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07-22-2015, 07:56 PM

#11

UAL T38 Phlyer

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Originally Posted by Otters

DAL had a vacancy around Feb. on two bids Captain went into 10,000 range. We had 3 year captains here awhile back. It will happen again. Someone's always wiling to chase it.

There were 3-year (I think) Capts on the Shuttle (Thunder Guppy; 737-200) when I was a newbie, up until 9-11.

I just think it's unlikely to hold for five more years this time. Would love to be wrong.

I'm trying to make hay while the sun shines.

07-23-2015, 05:04 AM

#12

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Acquire a 90 seat jet with capt rates close to a 57/67 fo and it has potential.

07-23-2015, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer

I'm trying to make hay while the sun shines.

That's it in a nutshell. Enjoy it while it lasts, save your money and don't sweat it when it ends.

07-23-2015, 06:40 AM

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skippy

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Thats why the 100 seater captain should Always pay more-- even if it's one MF cent-- than the same longevity widebody FO. i would gladly be a 100 seater captain if that was the case- especially if it were offered in my domicile

07-23-2015, 07:05 AM

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Aeronut2003

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Just to understand the industry a little better (I'm currently in the pool at United). What happens if I do make Captain in 5 years and then a large economic downturn happens? Would I be bumped back to FO? Or would I be furloughed as the low man on the Capt totem pole? Is there more job security in not upgrading? Thanks in advance!

07-23-2015, 07:20 AM

#16

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Originally Posted by Aeronut2003

There is one Seniority list, and once hired you have your place on it. After that you can choose to cash in seniority and be a captain as soon as possible, or hold out for better locations/skeds and bid captain later.

In the event of a furlough, and you are a junior captain, you will not be kicked out of your seat unless the seats you are flying are moved/or parked, or (which is most likely) someone senior to you is getting displaced because their seat is being moved or parked.

Wether or not you are ultimately furloughed only depends on your position on the overall seniority list, and wether you decide to be a ultra junior captain or super senior FO will have no bearing on that outcome.

07-23-2015, 07:40 AM

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aa73

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Must be nice guys, enjoy. AA junior CA still around 6000 seniority out of 10,500 and not moving. Currently about an 18 year wait. I'm a Feb 2000 hire and 6830, another 3-5 years for me to junior CA, and that would involve a commute to reserve to Mia or NYC, the current junior CA bases. Being DCA-based, junior CA here is around 4700, another 6-8 years for that. So 22-24 years to bottom DCA CA. Pop the champagne cork!

07-23-2015, 07:51 AM

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ron kent

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Originally Posted by Aeronut2003

Hired 2 Jan 96, was told at the time I would make Capt in 7-8 years. I was on the line as a Capt in 3 yrs 11 months. Bumped back to FO on the 777 10 months after 9-11. Bumped off the 777 after 1 year due to Asia flying cutbacks because of SARS. Spent 1 year as a very senior LCO airbus FO. Summer of 2004 back on the line as an Airbus Capt and spent 11+ years on reserve due to age 65 and the Guppy fleet going away for the merger. Now back to being a Guppy Capt again 15 years later.

Strap in and hang on!