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Old 08-24-2019, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
You’re correct. The company absolutely should provide them. But they probably won’t, since plenty of guys gleefully pony up and pay for them out of their own pocket.
Do you really trust a manager to determine, or should I say mandate, what kind of headset you're going to wear 70-90 hrs/mo?
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Old 08-24-2019, 01:15 AM
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If the Captain I fly with wants to use the company supplied headset, that's fine. I talk loud, and they are free to abuse their hearing.

However, please:
1. provide a hot-mic or VOX system on the aircraft.
2. mandate that each pilot will speak to the other pilot using intercom below FL180
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Old 08-24-2019, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2
If the Captain I fly with wants to use the company supplied headset, that's fine. I talk loud, and they are free to abuse their hearing.

However, please:
1. provide a hot-mic or VOX system on the aircraft.
2. mandate that each pilot will speak to the other pilot using intercom below FL180
Well said Huggy! I wonder what kind of lobbying it would take and using which methods to initiate such a change?
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2
...mandate that each pilot...
I hate reading stuff like this.
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Old 08-24-2019, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2
If the Captain I fly with wants to use the company supplied headset, that's fine. I talk loud, and they are free to abuse their hearing.

However, please:
1. provide a hot-mic or VOX system on the aircraft.
2. mandate that each pilot will speak to the other pilot using intercom below FL180
I don't know about that. On the 737, the company minitel with the hotmic on is like ear rape for the other pilot.
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Old 08-24-2019, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by KonaJoe
I don't know about that. On the 737, the company minitel with the hotmic on is like ear rape for the other pilot.
Completely agree along with the heavy breathing, wheezing, coughing and all other annoying anatomical noises that go with it. No thanks.

So Huggy, once you upgrade you can run the hot mic system anyway you see fit. Until then, its the guy in the left seats call.

As a PS, mandate is a word you really don't want to be throwing around that carelessly.
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Old 08-24-2019, 09:41 AM
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Completely agree along with all the heavy breathing, wheezing, coughing and other anatomical noises that go with it. No thanks.
I was always partial to the savory sounds of my fellow aviator enjoying the living hell out of his chew on the hot mic . Kinda reminds me of the magical sound an overweight, 14 year old basset hound makes when “cleaning himself”.
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Old 08-24-2019, 09:49 AM
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People here act as if the technology isn’t available today to prevent hearing another pilot breathing or chewing, while still enabling normal communication. That sentiment is ignorant.
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Originally Posted by KonaJoe
I don't know about that. On the 737, the company minitel with the hotmic on is like ear rape for the other pilot.
Does anyone know if the cushion tips seen on other boom mics might help with this problem?
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Old 08-24-2019, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball
I think it would cut the legs out from under aspiring pilots looking to move into the profession and move up the ladder.

2 years is a big deal. Our profession is just now starting to come back. I would have to see it stagnate for 2 full years just so guys can cash more pay checks. Really, no justification to allow it, and most certainly none to justify it.

LTD premiums would skyrocket. The young pilots would have to subsidize the older ones.

Does any of the ALPA carriers have any standing MEC or LC resolutions prohibiting ALPA from allowing or considering it? I would love to know where the full ALPA membership stands on this.
Do you pay attention and read communications from ALPA National at all? There is no mystery surrounding ALPA's position on the retirement age. It is standing direction in ALPA's Strategic Plan as voted on by the ALPA Board of Directors (i.e. ALL the elected representatives of the ALPA airlines) to oppose any effort to raise the retirement age from Age 65. I believe this was added three or four BOD's ago and has been reaffirmed and codified at each ALPA BOD meeting since.

And FYI, to again dispel false statements or notions, the L-CAL pilots did NOT overpay the LTD premiums. Each and every year under that plan, as is done today, an assessment was made to determine the money needed to cover projected benefits and the number of pilots who would need to take LTD. This resulted, as it does today, in an adjustment to the LTD premiums paid by ALL the pilots in the plan. Part of the calculation is how well the investment of the premiums perform. Due to the rise in the markets since the L-CAL LTD plan was frozen, there is an excess amount of money in the fund needed to pay those pilots still under the old L-CAL LTD plan. You didn't over pay. I didn't over pay. We paid exactly what the actuaries determined was needed to cover the individuals at the time the rate was set. The investment of those premiums has just done very well, not to mention that fewer L-CAL pilots remained out on LTD under that plan than was projected. You can make the case that the excess earnings should be returned to the pilots, but "over payment" is not the same as "over funding" in general. Just the facts.
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