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05-24-2015, 08:02 AM
#151
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14-02A was the SFO MOU bid. It had 37 Capt bids... 19 were for the 737 in SFO which your side shared the majority of. I do stand corrected as this was the last LCAL bid but it hardly was a massive bid that put people out of seniority for years and filled years worth of upgrades as Pilot64golfer said.
There were less than ten backfills and secondaries on the L-UA side on that bid. There were around 400 backfills and secondaries on the L-CAL side. That made it a big bid. I don't have the exact numbers in each BES because I deleted all that stuff and moved on like most of the people here.
05-24-2015, 09:15 AM
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You're cracking me up. We had 23 737 SFO CA bids if I remember. A majority of FOUR!
There were less than ten backfills and secondaries on the L-UA side on that bid. There were around 400 backfills and secondaries on the L-CAL side. That made it a big bid. I don't have the exact numbers in each BES because I deleted all that stuff and moved on like most of the people here.
There were less than ten backfills and secondaries on the L-UA side on that bid. There were around 400 backfills and secondaries on the L-CAL side. That made it a big bid. I don't have the exact numbers in each BES because I deleted all that stuff and moved on like most of the people here.
05-24-2015, 09:23 AM
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You're cracking me up. We had 23 737 SFO CA bids if I remember. A majority of FOUR!
There were less than ten backfills and secondaries on the L-UA side on that bid. There were around 400 backfills and secondaries on the L-CAL side. That made it a big bid. I don't have the exact numbers in each BES because I deleted all that stuff and moved on like most of the people here.
There were less than ten backfills and secondaries on the L-UA side on that bid. There were around 400 backfills and secondaries on the L-CAL side. That made it a big bid. I don't have the exact numbers in each BES because I deleted all that stuff and moved on like most of the people here.
We got our 23 though.....
05-24-2015, 09:27 AM
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Many of the LCAL vacancies were filled by LUAL returning furloughed pilots. As noted there were only 37 Capt. Vacancies 19 of which were agreed to in the SFO MOU.
05-24-2015, 09:34 AM
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Man you just don't give up. I have a feeling your "Many" above is as accurate as your L-UA received the "Majority" of the SFO 737 CA bids comment. And actually 14-02A was not the last L-CAL bid 14-02D was.
05-24-2015, 09:38 AM
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14-02A was the SFO MOU bid. It had 37 Capt bids... 19 were for the 737 in SFO which your side shared the majority of. I do stand corrected as this was the last LCAL bid but it hardly was a massive bid that put people out of seniority for years and filled years worth of upgrades as Pilot64golfer said.
05-24-2015, 09:40 AM
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It was a majority. This was an F/O Bid. Very few upgrade positions to say that this bid stole massive upgrade positions for years to come a day before the SLI is false.
05-24-2015, 09:48 AM
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The evidence that is plainly in front of us refutes all your hype and obfuscation.
05-24-2015, 10:00 AM
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I will agree with you however on 14-02A's impact. After the fact it's impact wasn't huge. Bid 14-02D had much greater impact. But I blame Heppner more for 14-02D than the L-CAL pilots that snookered him.
Still as pointed out above when you combine 14-02 and 14-02A L-CAL had 1,061 bids filled in the seven months prior to SLI. That's a fourth of the list. There were 419 bids on 14-02D.
05-24-2015, 10:03 AM
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Many of them were awarded these position well in advance of SLI. 13-08, which had a lot of JR CAPT. In it was a full year before SLI. As you noted 14-02 was 7 months. To say massive upgrades were given away the day before SLI is false.
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