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Old 09-05-2015, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor
You've obviously been flying with an LCA

Per scope, the max number of 70/76 seat AC are capped at 223, only 70 above the 153 allowed after 1/1/16.



The extra 5 airframes (75-70 hypothetical CS100 aircraft won't allow the company to add any additional 70/76 seat jets).
You might want to reference 1-C-1-g, and 1-L-25.
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Old 09-05-2015, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
No just having lunch in Chicago a few blocks from Sears tower at a Mexican place called frontera grill with someone that spill the beans and he is not a pilot !
This thread was started by a dude from Wacker spilling the beans at lunch back in April. HA! Hope this one comes true as well !!!
U...nited scope choke baby. Da da da da da da da da.


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Old 09-05-2015, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
Watch for the announcement:

100 seat aircraft (Bombardier)

75 firm orders and 50 options for UAL mainline


15000 pilot list by 2018


That will free up per scope additional 175s for Express ----as it is current language per contract 2012
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Old 09-05-2015, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor
Roger - 1-C-1-g "up to 325" with restrictions.

My point on 1-L-25 is that we have pay rates for the CS300 in section 3, scope defines new small narrow body as the CS100 (not the CS300). Adding a CS300 doesn't comply with scope, and we don't have rates for the the CS100 which does.

Finally, thanks to the moderator for breaking the "post boob pictures" seal on this thread.
And, I was afraid it would go too far, so I had to reel it back in....

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Old 09-05-2015, 09:08 PM
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That was the only thing making the thread interesting. Can I get a job, moderating the moderators?
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Probe, it's not a job.

It's the burden of Sisyphus.
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Old 09-06-2015, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
Watch for the announcement:

100 seat aircraft (Bombardier)

75 firm orders and 50 options for UAL mainline


15000 pilot list by 2018


That will free up per scope additional 175s for Express ----as it is current language per contract 2012
Have either of those completed (or even started) flight test?
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Originally Posted by NFLUALNFL
Have either of those completed (or even started) flight test?
The E175 is currently in service with United Express.

The C-Series is about 80% of the way through fight test according to Bombardier.

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Old 09-06-2015, 10:46 AM
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I have wondered about the C-series and UAL for a while. Republic has orders for the C-series and needs to get out of the deliveries and bombardier needs to keep those deliveries and they have stated publicly that they want 300 firm by the first delivery. They have a new management team that might be willing to wheel and deal more so than the last. As jr pilot I hope this is true. As a realist I expect it to be just another rumor.
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Originally Posted by Thor
That should be interesting. Per scope, the only way to increase 70/76 seat aircraft is to add CS100, E190, or E195 aircraft to UA mainline flying.

Section 3 only has pay rates for CS300 aircraft.

If they add CS300 aircraft, does that meet the scope choke growth requirements of section one? If they add CS100 series jets, I hope they plan to pay CS300 rates, or they can keep them parked until a pay rate is negotiated. I'd put that negotiation at the back of the line until after compliance with the current book is established.

No planes will be parked just because there isn't a pay rate. That tactic sailed in 2000 with a side letter signed by Dubinsky. And current contract has it incorporated into 3-J.

3-J-2 Nothing set forth herein shall prevent the Company from introducing a new aircraft type into revenue service before agreement is reached over its pay rate and Equipment band, provided that the pay rates assigned to the new aircraft type are not less than the minimum rates provided in Section 3-A-1
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