United airlineapps addendum question
04-17-2015, 06:07 PM
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The UAL computer does not give you negative points for answering yes to this question, per the addendum. This is directly from UAL HR and is a fact. A human set of eyes looking at this question knows the difference between a felony, speeding ticket, etc.
Some may have gotten hired without listing their traffic tickets here, but again, the question states... "Have you ever paid a fine"
Without negative points being a factor, we advise our clients to list their PAID speeding tickets fines like the question states. It has not once been a factor in hindering an interview invite.
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Some may have gotten hired without listing their traffic tickets here, but again, the question states... "Have you ever paid a fine"
Without negative points being a factor, we advise our clients to list their PAID speeding tickets fines like the question states. It has not once been a factor in hindering an interview invite.
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04-17-2015, 07:32 PM
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If you answer yes to this question, you will not get called. It has nothing to do with negative points, your app won't make it through at all. I made the same mistake and went down the rabbit hole thinking that a speeding ticket was a paid fine. It took a buddy in the training department to do some digging to find out why I wasn't getting called. Once I changed the answer I got called within a month. Its kinda like the Hogan test; don't over-think it.
04-18-2015, 12:24 AM
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The expression I could not care less originally meant 'it would be impossible for me to care less than I do because I do not care at all'. It was originally a British saying and came to the US in the 1950s. It is senseless to transform it into the now-common I could care less. If you could care less, that means you care at least a little. The original is quite sarcastic and the other form is clearly nonsense. The inverted form I could care less was coined in the US and is found only here, recorded in print by 1966. The question is, something caused the negative to vanish even while the original form of the expression was still very much in vogue and available for comparison - so what was it? There are other American English expressions that have a similar sarcastic inversion of an apparent sense, such as Tell me about it!, which usually means 'Don't tell me about it, because I know all about it already'. The Yiddish I should be so lucky!, in which the real sense is often 'I have no hope of being so lucky', has a similar stress pattern with the same sarcastic inversion of meaning as does I could care less.
04-18-2015, 02:01 AM
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Come on brotha', people pay you for your expertise and being able to be coached to phrase things PROPERLY. Attention to detail is IMPORTANT;
Urban Dictionary: I could care less
Urban Dictionary: I could care less
It's completely off the subject, but I'm glad someone else noticed this.
04-18-2015, 02:46 AM
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Come on brotha', people pay you for your expertise and being able to be coached to phrase things PROPERLY. Attention to detail is IMPORTANT;
The expression I could not care less originally meant 'it would be impossible for me to care less than I do because I do not care at all'. It was originally a British saying and came to the US in the 1950s. It is senseless to transform it into the now-common I could care less. If you could care less, that means you care at least a little. The original is quite sarcastic and the other form is clearly nonsense. The inverted form I could care less was coined in the US and is found only here, recorded in print by 1966. The question is, something caused the negative to vanish even while the original form of the expression was still very much in vogue and available for comparison - so what was it? There are other American English expressions that have a similar sarcastic inversion of an apparent sense, such as Tell me about it!, which usually means 'Don't tell me about it, because I know all about it already'. The Yiddish I should be so lucky!, in which the real sense is often 'I have no hope of being so lucky', has a similar stress pattern with the same sarcastic inversion of meaning as does I could care less.
Urban Dictionary: I could care less
The expression I could not care less originally meant 'it would be impossible for me to care less than I do because I do not care at all'. It was originally a British saying and came to the US in the 1950s. It is senseless to transform it into the now-common I could care less. If you could care less, that means you care at least a little. The original is quite sarcastic and the other form is clearly nonsense. The inverted form I could care less was coined in the US and is found only here, recorded in print by 1966. The question is, something caused the negative to vanish even while the original form of the expression was still very much in vogue and available for comparison - so what was it? There are other American English expressions that have a similar sarcastic inversion of an apparent sense, such as Tell me about it!, which usually means 'Don't tell me about it, because I know all about it already'. The Yiddish I should be so lucky!, in which the real sense is often 'I have no hope of being so lucky', has a similar stress pattern with the same sarcastic inversion of meaning as does I could care less.
Urban Dictionary: I could care less
John Carr. In your quote it says "could care less" means "you care a little". My response then was absolutely proper terminology. They could care less about a ticket 15 years. If the interviewers "couldn't care less" about speeding tickets at all, any questions about speeding tickets would be completely omitted from the entire application itself.
On that note, I do find the humor in some of your posts quite funny.
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04-18-2015, 04:57 AM
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Most traffic tickets are infractions and are not misdemeanors. DUI, hit and run, leaving scene of accident with personal injury or damage, ... you can see a distinct difference in severity when you look at what qualifies as a misdemeanor. They specifically tell you to come clean on anything to be found on your "criminal record" in the bolded note above this question. I get that people are trying to be honest but this is not the place to put traffic infractions.
04-18-2015, 09:57 AM
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Checking yes to this box is not the reason for getting denied an interview invite, it's as simple as that. This coming from United HR and from dozens of past clients who've listed their speeding tickets there.
John Carr. In your quote it says "could care less" means "you care a little". My response then was absolutely proper terminology. They could care less about a ticket 15 years. If the interviewers "couldn't care less" about speeding tickets at all, any questions about speeding tickets would be completely omitted from the entire application itself.
On that note, I do find the humor in some of your posts quite funny.
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John Carr. In your quote it says "could care less" means "you care a little". My response then was absolutely proper terminology. They could care less about a ticket 15 years. If the interviewers "couldn't care less" about speeding tickets at all, any questions about speeding tickets would be completely omitted from the entire application itself.
On that note, I do find the humor in some of your posts quite funny.
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04-18-2015, 01:54 PM
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What was the outcome of the violation? "Paid Fine" or "Paid Fine; non-moving violation & no points" or if a violation was dismissed, put "Dismissed". If you got some sort of adjudication agreement, ie, "Dismissed after traffic school" I would put that as well.
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