United Hogan Assessment?
09-12-2016, 07:22 AM
#361
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Lets, for arguments sake, say I'm right and to go one step further lets say that Pro-Stands and Membership even agree with me. Perhaps some of a certain carriers Pilots are not playing so nicely in the sandbox and its been a real problem as of late?
Nah, way more fun to shoot the messenger and keep on defending the indefensible.
Point of the whole post is that the Hogan shouldn't be the defining qualification for getting employed here.
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09-12-2016, 08:35 AM
#363
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As a rule, most of them are fine if not exceptional so you are correct. The ones that really stood out had no business even darkening our doorstep. As you point out so sagely, I too was an eager puppy with not a hint of arrogance and oh-so grateful to be on board. The disasters I've been saddled with recently weren't that at all. Not one sign of humbleness and unsuccessfully trying to run the show from the right seat. As I've pointed out earlier they all came from the same commuter airline and were all check airman so perhaps I'm just unlucky.
We have been hiring so much. While the pilots are great, it's not like flying with someone who has enjoyed the same career experiences over the last two or three decades. Patience, explanation, and a little laughter go a long way and always prevail. I can say that because on a few occasions my patience has been stretched thin. Looking back on it, I could have handled it better.
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09-12-2016, 08:55 AM
#364
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I think branding one regional might be a stretch. It could bite you when your pre conceived notion presents itself on the first leg with a new pilot.
We have been hiring so much. While the pilots are great, it's not like flying with someone who has enjoyed the same career experiences over the last two or three decades. Patience, explanation, and a little laughter go a long way and always prevail. I can say that because on a few occasions my patience has been stretched thin. Looking back on it, I could have handled it better.
We have been hiring so much. While the pilots are great, it's not like flying with someone who has enjoyed the same career experiences over the last two or three decades. Patience, explanation, and a little laughter go a long way and always prevail. I can say that because on a few occasions my patience has been stretched thin. Looking back on it, I could have handled it better.
09-12-2016, 08:57 AM
#365
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Absolutely ridiculous process considering some of the gems that are passing the Hogan, slipping through the interview process and getting hired. Bring back the old Pilot Panel Board. Let 3 or 4 of us decide if we'd like to be stuck in the ol' aluminum tube for 6 plus hours with the guy.
I think you hired one of our "gems" from my company. I'm still trying to pick up my jaw from the floor when they announced they were leaving for United.
09-12-2016, 12:28 PM
#366
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For some reason I had a sick feeling after I never thought to check other inboxes, which now I do.
Good luck to those being selected!
09-12-2016, 12:42 PM
#367
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Thanks Goob, and to all others who responded. I've literally been on airlineapps adding or changing something every day for the last 5 months. It's almost an obsession to see if I can find something. Sad thing is, sometimes I still do. Every time I read something I instantly go in and check.
For some reason I had a sick feeling after I never thought to check other inboxes, which now I do.
Good luck to those being selected!
For some reason I had a sick feeling after I never thought to check other inboxes, which now I do.
Good luck to those being selected!
09-12-2016, 12:52 PM
#368
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Supposedly, this guy failed the Hogan. Had a mil background, too. 
They said he must have cheated, because his score was perfect.
(Yes, I know I'm dating myself with the reference, but some will get it).
They said he must have cheated, because his score was perfect.
(Yes, I know I'm dating myself with the reference, but some will get it).
09-12-2016, 01:39 PM
#369
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Thanks Goob, and to all others who responded. I've literally been on airlineapps adding or changing something every day for the last 5 months. It's almost an obsession to see if I can find something. Sad thing is, sometimes I still do. Every time I read something I instantly go in and check.
For some reason I had a sick feeling after I never thought to check other inboxes, which now I do.
Good luck to those being selected!
For some reason I had a sick feeling after I never thought to check other inboxes, which now I do.
Good luck to those being selected!
09-12-2016, 02:18 PM
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There's no answer to that question... Some get the invite within a few months and others (who are most definitely qualified) have been waiting years with no invite. It all depends
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