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Old 03-01-2015, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
How long have you been online? Less than a year? You sure do have lots of answers.
A year and a half. And all I have is the SOP as it was taught to me. I will fly it whether you like it or not. If I feel like a procedure is unsafe I will email the flight department or file an FSAP.

I want the NEW United to succeed because I have so much invested here. I hope to still be here when all of you are long retired. The people hired now have no affiliation with United, Continental, NY Air, Texas International, Frontier #1, Peoples Express, PanAM, Eastern, Braniff, TWA.......

The experience of the pilots I have flown with is amazing and I have, and will, continue to learn form that experience. But this holding on to the "old" way or not following the SOP because its stupid is not ok with me. The way it used to be done was perfectly safe but its not how its done now.

Don't you think we are doing the new hires a dis service by not following the SOP they have less than 100 hrs flying under? What are we teaching these new guys/gals?
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Funny thing is 99% of the pilots I've flown with during my career are SOP. Even during all those phase/otj training changes we did our best to follow SOP. So the question begs young Master..., who are you flying with?

Btw, If by association in your post you have no affiliation with any of the legacy carriers, then why the old UAL paint scheme in your avatar?
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Old 03-01-2015, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
Funny thing is 99% of the pilots I've flown with during my career are SOP. Even during all those phase/otj training changes we did our best to follow SOP. So the question begs young Master..., who are you flying with?

Btw, If by association in your post you have no affiliation with any of the legacy carriers, then why the old UAL paint scheme in your avatar?
I agree that most of the pilots here comply with SOP, but they are not the ones generating these degrading memos we keep getting. I'm done beating a dead horse you all know where I stand at this point and what my opinion is.

As for the avatar. I wanted to fly for United since I started my love for aviation. It was my goal and what I worked for with everything I did. I made it to United and I am proud to be here, and be part of the greatest airline in the world. I am going to do everything I can to keep United a world class airline that I am proud to work for. So my avatar stays because I achieved my dream.
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
A year and a half......


The people hired now have no affiliation with United, Continental, NY Air, Texas International, Frontier #1, Peoples Express, PanAM, Eastern, Braniff, TWA.......
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As for the avatar. I wanted to fly for United since I started my love for aviation. It was my goal and what I worked for with everything I did. I made it to United and I am proud to be here, and be part of the greatest airline in the world. I am going to do everything I can to keep United a world class airline that I am proud to work for. So my avatar stays because I achieved my dream.
I'm just curious, but what magical thing happened between now and the year and half ago you were hired that dictates people hired NOW have NO affiliation with United? What does the plane say on the side?

Is there something special about YOU that you can claim you are "affiliated" with United?

When you were hired, were you done so under L-UAL or L-CAL staffing criteria?

As in, EWR 756 or 76T?
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Old 03-01-2015, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
Funny thing is 99% of the pilots I've flown with during my career are SOP.
The other question that begs to be asked is: "Do the SOP's that company is pushing make us safer, or just standardized?"
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Originally Posted by John Carr
I'm just curious, but what magical thing happened between now and the year and half ago you were hired that dictates people hired NOW have NO affiliation with United? What does the plane say on the side?

Is there something special about YOU that you can claim you are "affiliated" with United?

When you were hired, were you done so under L-UAL or L-CAL staffing criteria?

As in, EWR 756 or 76T?
Sorry should have been more specific should have said L-UAL and L-CAL. I was hired by UNITED there is no L in front of the airline I was hired by or the airline I work for.
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Originally Posted by awax
The other question that begs to be asked is: "Do the SOP's that company is pushing make us safer, or just standardized?"
I completely understand. Remember, some SOP's are immediate and some are the result of actions initiated.

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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
I agree that most of the pilots here comply with SOP, but they are not the ones generating these degrading memos we keep getting.
"Who" is generating those degrading memos? Think about it for a while.
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
Sorry should have been more specific should have said L-UAL and L-CAL. I was hired by UNITED there is no L in front of the airline I was hired by or the airline I work for.
So are you affiliated with United?
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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
"Who" is generating those degrading memos? Think about it for a while.
The desk jockeys in the crystal palace. So lets stop giving them ammo.
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