Knotcher

This...just call the futures desk and have them move your vacation day to another day off in the future. Just did this recently, so have a nice day Snarge!

Snarge

Company to ALPA NC in Section 6. We have quite a bit of data of pilots wanting to work on their vacation. So we'd like to water down the vacation provisions in the next contract.


Glad you could help out #1.

flightmedic01

What I decide to do on MY vacation is entirely up to me and no one else. Don't judge me. You don't know my situation. I should have expected nothing less from a few of you trolls that have nothing better to do than bash people. To those who gave legitimate answers, thank you.

pilot64golfer

If the contract allows it, do it. Its a negotiated contractual item. There are lots of people who don't like certain provisions, and then they to manipulate or guilt others to not exercise them. They usually site "the next contract negotiations". The bottom line is that no matter what we do, the company doesn't care enough to make a difference in the next contract talks.

The company is never going to overhire to have enough pilots to not have scheduleing flexibility, and we realized this which is why when they do want flexibility, it costs the company and benefits the individual pilot.

If the union feels so strongly about an issue (minimum days off for example) then they will set a hard line that can't be crossed. Everything else is at the individual pilot's discretion. If someone doesn't like it, then they should go volunteer to negotiate the next contract.

A guy moving a vacation day to get add pay, if allowed, sounds like a great deal. All within the contract. Go for it, don't listen to the haters.

Lerxst

You mean like Base Trades?

C-17 Driver

Agreed. Some junior guys like me get vacation during relatively worthless periods. Kids are in school and wife is working. I can only play Xbox for so long. Why not pick up an open 3 day and allow a reserve to stay home.

full of luv

Just make it so anyone can sell bac vacation and act like you never even had it just a pay bump.

awax

Do what you want on you vacation, however, expect to get well deserved grief when you abrogate and water down the contract that applies to all pilots, including you.

Read Section 11 of the UPA and get back to us on the part that talks about flying on a vacation day. Will the company move a vacation day to cover a trip, sure they will, but then they do a lot of things that don't comply with the agreement.

If vacation gets in your way, don't bid it. At the end of the period the company will pay you 3.25 hours as outlined in section 22 and 24.

awax

Pilots CAN do that by not bidding annual vacation. If there's no annual award, they can still bid monthly slots based on availability and seniority. Unawarded vacation is paid at 3.25 hours per day in June.

Knotcher

The simple-minded can't comprehend that moving a vacation day to a day off and picking up a trip is the exact same as picking up a trip on your day off, just shuffling days around. Are you going to condemn everybody picking up trips on days off? Last I checked there is nobody on furlough. Show me in the contract where you can't move vacation days? This is not your old contract.