MIL leave and CASS
#21
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 303
I spoke with the MIL affairs committee and we are able to jumpseat on and offline while on MIL leave. Also, there is a copy of a letter on the ALPA MEC website with specific approval from the POI for pilots on MIL leave to occupy the jumpseat if you are concerned about the legality of it.
#23
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Narrow/Left Wide/Right
Posts: 3,655
Sailing,
I thought you were delta, no? At delta on long term mil delta Renewed my id three different times.
Your info is completely wrong for delta (realize this is Ual thread with Ual policy) but afraid you will misinform delta pilots who have been in cass as long term mloa for years.
My point is Ual should conform to allow js access to our service members if so otherwise qualified as crew.
I thought you were delta, no? At delta on long term mil delta Renewed my id three different times.
Your info is completely wrong for delta (realize this is Ual thread with Ual policy) but afraid you will misinform delta pilots who have been in cass as long term mloa for years.
My point is Ual should conform to allow js access to our service members if so otherwise qualified as crew.
#24
Sailing,
I thought you were delta, no? At delta on long term mil delta Renewed my id three different times.
Your info is completely wrong for delta (realize this is Ual thread with Ual policy) but afraid you will misinform delta pilots who have been in cass as long term mloa for years.
My point is Ual should conform to allow js access to our service members if so otherwise qualified as crew.
I thought you were delta, no? At delta on long term mil delta Renewed my id three different times.
Your info is completely wrong for delta (realize this is Ual thread with Ual policy) but afraid you will misinform delta pilots who have been in cass as long term mloa for years.
My point is Ual should conform to allow js access to our service members if so otherwise qualified as crew.
If you aren't a UA pilot why do you care what our policy is on this matter? Should we ask your opinion on how we drop trips, reimburse dry cleaning etc.
USERRA is a great benefit. However, it shouldn't entitle you to a benefit greater than those that others receive.
#25
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Narrow/Left Wide/Right
Posts: 3,655
Well I originally commented to let y'all know it's a Ual policy to de-cass you not FAA as some espouse here.
Personally your right I don't care what uch does with it's policies and the word spreads fast throughout the mil on the different treatment of reserves. I hope Ual asks for paper orders for all mil leave just to throw that additional burden on their pilots.
When that mil pilot has to choose who to work for it may just help him make a decision one way or another.
I know you think all loas are the same but when the next conflict calls for a mobilization and the members family gets left behind ill welcome them on my js to go home to/from their mil duties at delta, even after 30 days.
Btw your js policy decides whom gets the seat so put mil guys at end if that's your fear.
As stated I have no influence on Ual policy but only refute those who apologize for Ual policy by blaming far's.
Fly safe
Personally your right I don't care what uch does with it's policies and the word spreads fast throughout the mil on the different treatment of reserves. I hope Ual asks for paper orders for all mil leave just to throw that additional burden on their pilots.
When that mil pilot has to choose who to work for it may just help him make a decision one way or another.
I know you think all loas are the same but when the next conflict calls for a mobilization and the members family gets left behind ill welcome them on my js to go home to/from their mil duties at delta, even after 30 days.
Btw your js policy decides whom gets the seat so put mil guys at end if that's your fear.
As stated I have no influence on Ual policy but only refute those who apologize for Ual policy by blaming far's.
Fly safe
#26
UCH Pilot
Joined APC: Oct 2014
Position: 787
Posts: 776
Why should a MIL leave pilot potentially block a working pilot from jumpseating? Gone more than 30 days should get you locked out of jumpseating. The miltary should be responsibile for your travel needs if you are out more than 30 days.
USERRA is a great benefit. However, it shouldn't entitle you to a benefit greater than those that others receive.
USERRA is a great benefit. However, it shouldn't entitle you to a benefit greater than those that others receive.
#27
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Narrow/Left Wide/Right
Posts: 3,655
Do you want twice as large of standing force? The "benefits" you speak of, should we just have it so if you make your skills available for the military (ones that you probably received on active duty) that your company can just fire you?
Shockingly... there are companies who just won't hire you if you are in the military reserves. That is their choice but the airlines have decided that the free training and employee that they get from the military is worth the "benefits" you speak of.
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