The pilots wife

Hi... Was wondering what happens when there are vacancy or displacement bids when you are out on LTD? Do you get to put a bid in and will they award it if it is after the date you are set to return? Do you go back to your original base and equipment when you come back? Any info would be appreciated!

Groundhog

Copy and paste your questions to a PDR and address it to the R&I committee.

Hog

SONORA PASS

You can participate on all vacancy bids and enter a bid if your position is being displaced while on LTD. It functions like it does for active pilots, and you can enter it in CCS.

After LTD you will return to your original Base and Seat. If awarded a vacancy bid while out, the company can decide to sent you straight to training on that new equipment, or make you return to your previous position first.

Hope that helps!

SP

untied

Then be prepared to either:

A. Never get an answer

or

B. Get bad information.

PDR system is just about totally useless.

felixpickles

The PDR system is not useless. It's an excellent platform for collecting data and to provide assistance where needed. Your issue is not with the system, but those running the system.

Groundhog

So the question becomes: do you post your career critical questions on an anonymous board, or do you send them in via an official union communications channel? You may get a more timely response from an APC posting, but can you be sure that the information is accurate? I'm betting Sonora is exactly right, but wouldn't you want an official answer from the people whose "job" it is to communicate accurate contract information to their members?

I get the frustration with the PDR system. Sometimes there is a lag between the question and the answer. Keep in mind that you are dealing with volunteers. Also keep in mind that these same volunteers are committed to the success of the PDR system, and getting the information out to their members.

If you send in your questions via a PDR but don't get a timely response, then call your rep. They can run down the information, or ping the committee to get the PDR answered. Or, you can call your local committee chairman/member and pose you questions to them. Easy stuff.

It's your dues money. Use the services that are available to you, and hold your reps accountable for any shortcomings.

Hog

CRM114

Section 12 of the CBA deals with leaves and returning from leaves - that might be a good place to start reading. The OP didn't make it clear if the question was forward or backward looking, but:

If out on LTD, a pilot can participate in the bid process as normal but obviously won't be activated and trained until returned to the line.

If a pilot hasn't bid a new position via bid announcements or the displacement process while on LTD, and, the bid position he left still exists, he'll go back to that bid position. In other words there are no "makeup" bids just because you were on LTD.

Again, read section 12.

Regarding the PDR, I get an accurate and timely response every time I use the system, I must be the only one huh?

NFLUALNFL

Regarding the PDR, I get an accurate and timely response every time I use the system, I must be the only one huh?


Nope

CRM114

The awesome MEC/LEC web sites come to mind.

flap

Great post.

Most PDR's I receive could be self answered if someone spent 2 minutes reading the contract.

Much easier to send an email for most people.

A clear and concise question usually gets answered very quickly. Long running diatribes that are difficult to follow or alcohol induced, take longer to figure out what the heck they are truly looking for.

Often times, there is not even a question involved, or if there is, it is unanswerable.

"When is this company gonna get their S*() together and start paying me correctly. I am so sick and tired..."

Not to say that we don't drop the ball sometimes, but we do try to get a response out pretty quickly.