Long call question
07-26-2014, 08:55 AM
#12
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20-K-6-d Ten (10) hours notice is required prior to the start of a Short Call assignment, if
the Short Call assignment is given to a Reserve from 0000 to 1759. Twelve (12) hours notice
is required prior to the start of a Short Call assignment, if the Short Call assignment is given
to a Reserve from 1800 to 2359. A Reserve may waive these requirements.
07-27-2014, 06:23 AM
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This isn't different?
20-K-7-c Assignments made from 1500 to 1759 on the last day off prior to reserve days shall be placed in the Pilot's schedule and the Company shall notify the Pilot by phone. The assignment shall not require the Pilot to:
20-K-7-c-(1) report prior to 0900, for a Trip or Field Standby assignment; or
20-K-7-c-(2) begin earlier than 0900, for a Short Call assignment.
20-K-7-c-(3) A Pilot may waive these provisions.
20-K-7-d Assignments made after 1759 on the last day off prior to reserve days shall be placed in the Pilot's schedule and the Company shall notify the Pilot by phone. The assignment shall not require the Pilot to:
20-K-7-d-(1) depart prior to 1300, for a Trip; or
20-K-7-d-(2) begin earlier than 1200, for a Short Call assignment; or 20-K-7-d-(3) report prior to 1200, for a Field Standby assignment. 20-K-7-d-(4) A Pilot may waive these provisions.
20-K-7-c Assignments made from 1500 to 1759 on the last day off prior to reserve days shall be placed in the Pilot's schedule and the Company shall notify the Pilot by phone. The assignment shall not require the Pilot to:
20-K-7-c-(1) report prior to 0900, for a Trip or Field Standby assignment; or
20-K-7-c-(2) begin earlier than 0900, for a Short Call assignment.
20-K-7-c-(3) A Pilot may waive these provisions.
20-K-7-d Assignments made after 1759 on the last day off prior to reserve days shall be placed in the Pilot's schedule and the Company shall notify the Pilot by phone. The assignment shall not require the Pilot to:
20-K-7-d-(1) depart prior to 1300, for a Trip; or
20-K-7-d-(2) begin earlier than 1200, for a Short Call assignment; or 20-K-7-d-(3) report prior to 1200, for a Field Standby assignment. 20-K-7-d-(4) A Pilot may waive these provisions.
07-27-2014, 06:43 AM
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20-K-7-d Assignments made after 1759 on the last day off prior to reserve days shall be placed in the Pilot's schedule and the Company shall notify the Pilot by phone. The assignment shall not require the Pilot to:
20-K-7-d-(1) depart prior to 1300, for a Trip; or
20-K-7-d-(2) begin earlier than 1200, for a Short Call assignment; or 20-K-7-d-(3) report prior to 1200, for a Field Standby assignment. 20-K-7-d-(4) A Pilot may waive these provisions.
20-K-7-d Assignments made after 1759 on the last day off prior to reserve days shall be placed in the Pilot's schedule and the Company shall notify the Pilot by phone. The assignment shall not require the Pilot to:
20-K-7-d-(1) depart prior to 1300, for a Trip; or
20-K-7-d-(2) begin earlier than 1200, for a Short Call assignment; or 20-K-7-d-(3) report prior to 1200, for a Field Standby assignment. 20-K-7-d-(4) A Pilot may waive these provisions.
20-K-5-a For a Trip assignment, a Long Call Reserve must be assigned the Trip with a minimum of thirteen (13) hours notice prior to scheduled Departure time.
20-K-6-d Ten (10) hours notice is required prior to the start of a Short Call assignment, if the Short Call assignment is given to a Reserve from 0000 to 1759. Twelve (12) hours notice is required prior to the start of a Short Call assignment, if the Short Call assignment is given to a Reserve from 1800 to 2359.
07-27-2014, 06:51 AM
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20-K-7-c Assignments made from 1500 to 1759 on the last day off prior to reserve days shall be placed in the Pilot's schedule and the Company shall notify the Pilot by phone. The assignment shall not require the Pilot to:
20-K-7-c-(1) report prior to 0900, for a Trip or Field Standby assignment; or
20-K-7-c-(2) begin earlier than 0900, for a Short Call assignment.
20-K-7-c-(3) A Pilot may waive these provisions.
20-K-7-c Assignments made from 1500 to 1759 on the last day off prior to reserve days shall be placed in the Pilot's schedule and the Company shall notify the Pilot by phone. The assignment shall not require the Pilot to:
20-K-7-c-(1) report prior to 0900, for a Trip or Field Standby assignment; or
20-K-7-c-(2) begin earlier than 0900, for a Short Call assignment.
20-K-7-c-(3) A Pilot may waive these provisions.
https://crewroom.alpa.org/ual/Deskto...cumentID=49506
6) Impact on Reserve Last Day Off: Because reserves are required to check their schedule on a day off between 1800 and 2359 (20-K-7 as modified by the JIT), this must be accounted for as company-required duty. A one minute duty period will be recorded at midnight of the first day on reserve (interim process pending programming changes that move this time to 1800). Following this one minute of duty, a minimum of 10 hours of rest free from duty is required.
Therefore, a reserve coming off days off is not legal to report for a trip or begin a SC/FSB until 1000 on his first day of reserve unless the crew desk achieves two-way contact (see Important Note below) or the pilot aggressively picks up an assignment. For reserves that are not coming off days off, be sure to consider this limitation and realize pilots on their first day of reserve cannot cover reports prior to 1000 unless they aggressively pick it up. Use caution when evaluating the FIFO list and make sure you consider this restriction on early reports for pilots coming off days off.
IMPORTANT NOTE: If the crew desk calls you on your last day off and achieves positive contact (two-way telephone conversation) they can give you an early SC or trip that departs as early as 0600. If such positive contact is achieved, there is no requirement to enter the 1 minute of duty at midnight but contact must be made at least 10 hours prior to the report or SC/FSB start time.
Last edited by APC225; 07-27-2014 at 07:04 AM.
07-27-2014, 07:06 AM
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Flygirl,
That is correct there is no difference when we are speaking of notification times. IE 10, 12 or 13 hours. The difference comes in the form of the 1000 O clock show time on your first day of reserve availability.
I hope that clears it up for you?
That is correct there is no difference when we are speaking of notification times. IE 10, 12 or 13 hours. The difference comes in the form of the 1000 O clock show time on your first day of reserve availability.
I hope that clears it up for you?
07-27-2014, 07:28 AM
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: Left seat
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Thanks guys... I'm sure I'll figure it all out. Just trying to get ahead of the game by reading through some of the contract ahead of time. It's been 14 years since I did my <2 months on reserve... Gonna be an adjustment!
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