New Hires/Re-Docs: Spouse Attendance?
07-28-2014, 05:14 PM
#11
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We don't really need them there anyways..... My wife has never gone into my training class but she did hang out with me for a month at the hotel when I was a new hire at CAL.
The end result is the same either way. It is a waste of money for the company to have to pay any of the cost to have a spouse day, which is totally useless.
The end result is the same either way. It is a waste of money for the company to have to pay any of the cost to have a spouse day, which is totally useless.
07-28-2014, 06:10 PM
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Shroth,
We were wanting to have the spouses for the first day. Then have a dinner that night with a senior executive, Howard comes to mind. We want to build a family. We want to strengthen the pilot group as well as present the company as a great place. Don't get distracted on our current operations. Long term I think that this will pay dividends and I want people to feel welcomed and valued. It's not about hitting the lottery and etc... but being felt valued.
We were wanting to have the spouses for the first day. Then have a dinner that night with a senior executive, Howard comes to mind. We want to build a family. We want to strengthen the pilot group as well as present the company as a great place. Don't get distracted on our current operations. Long term I think that this will pay dividends and I want people to feel welcomed and valued. It's not about hitting the lottery and etc... but being felt valued.
07-28-2014, 06:13 PM
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We don't really need them there anyways..... My wife has never gone into my training class but she did hang out with me for a month at the hotel when I was a new hire at CAL.
The end result is the same either way. It is a waste of money for the company to have to pay any of the cost to have a spouse day, which is totally useless.
The end result is the same either way. It is a waste of money for the company to have to pay any of the cost to have a spouse day, which is totally useless.
07-28-2014, 06:23 PM
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Plus what 89 says. There are many benefits to having spouses there.
07-28-2014, 06:28 PM
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It wasn't useless. The first couple of days at indoc in Denver back then may have been much different than it was in Houston or how it is for the combined carrier in a Denver today. There were many in depth presentations dealing with insurance, retirement, and many other benefits that were very beneficial for the entire family. Your presentations in IAH may have been useless for you but the presentations in DEN circa 2000 were extremely beneficial. Not only to the families but there was an intangible benefit to the company too.
Yeah, worked out well for all of you folks hired there from 1998 to 2001......
Face it...it was useless....
Just curious, did the DEN circa 2000 presentations address the coming furloughs or was it just a session of congratulating you all for being masters of the aviation universe and how your superior skills landed you a job at UAL? Yes, I know what you are thinking and yes, I can be an a-hole.
If you want to spend your time trying to get it, fine, I won't stand in the way, but don't expect me to care about this issue. Sorry...
07-28-2014, 06:39 PM
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Yeah, worked out well for all of you folks hired there from 1998 to 2001......
Face it...it was useless....
Just curious, did the DEN circa 2000 presentations address the coming furloughs or was it just a session of congratulating you all for being masters of the aviation universe and how your superior skills landed you a job at UAL? Yes, I know what you are thinking and yes, I can be an a-hole.
If you want to spend your time trying to get it, fine, I won't stand in the way, but don't expect me to care about this issue. Sorry...
Face it...it was useless....
Just curious, did the DEN circa 2000 presentations address the coming furloughs or was it just a session of congratulating you all for being masters of the aviation universe and how your superior skills landed you a job at UAL? Yes, I know what you are thinking and yes, I can be an a-hole.
If you want to spend your time trying to get it, fine, I won't stand in the way, but don't expect me to care about this issue. Sorry...
07-30-2014, 06:57 AM
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So Shroth
I gotta ask, as a new hire didn't you find it hard to explain all the benefits with the same level of detail and precision as they explained them to you? I have been through 3 indocs and each night after the benefits presentation I would be on the phone trying to explain what they said to my wife. Inevitably she would ask me a few questions that I would not remember the answer to or need clarification on. All I'm saying is it would have been a lot easier with her there and would have been a fun experience to give her a little more insight to what I do.
I gotta ask, as a new hire didn't you find it hard to explain all the benefits with the same level of detail and precision as they explained them to you? I have been through 3 indocs and each night after the benefits presentation I would be on the phone trying to explain what they said to my wife. Inevitably she would ask me a few questions that I would not remember the answer to or need clarification on. All I'm saying is it would have been a lot easier with her there and would have been a fun experience to give her a little more insight to what I do.
07-30-2014, 07:17 AM
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From his enlightening posts so far, I think you're all wasting your time.
07-30-2014, 07:20 AM
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My wife spent a day and did redoc classes with me, including opening all the doors and going down the slide. She also was in a simulator for one of my training periods. She told me it was a great experience for her.
I also took her to a union meeting. Her observation was that airline pilots "have a strong sense of entitlement".
Those of us that are married need the support of our wives for this career and having a feel for what we do when we go to work helps a great deal.
07-30-2014, 01:41 PM
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I did it and it didn't cost anything. There is no cost to have a spouse sit in the simulator or class.
My wife spent a day and did redoc classes with me, including opening all the doors and going down the slide. She also was in a simulator for one of my training periods. She told me it was a great experience for her.
I also took her to a union meeting. Her observation was that airline pilots "have a strong sense of entitlement".
Those of us that are married need the support of our wives for this career and having a feel for what we do when we go to work helps a great deal.
My wife spent a day and did redoc classes with me, including opening all the doors and going down the slide. She also was in a simulator for one of my training periods. She told me it was a great experience for her.
I also took her to a union meeting. Her observation was that airline pilots "have a strong sense of entitlement".
Those of us that are married need the support of our wives for this career and having a feel for what we do when we go to work helps a great deal.
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