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Old 07-25-2014, 12:47 PM
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Wow! Excellent information. Thanks for the replies.
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Old 07-25-2014, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
So they're the terms to describe the two separate pilot groups?
Yes, sort of. But the sorting represents pre-merger equipment and not necessarily pre-merger pilots.

Except for the temporary 787/747 fences the ISL is complete and pilots are free to bid whatever base/equipment/seat their seniority can hold on the combined list. There are pilots from both pre-merger airlines currently flying the 756 and 76T. Naturally there are more ex-CAL pilots on the 756 and pre-merger UAL pilots on the 76T as that was the starting point at the time of the merger.

Once the cockpits are harmonized, if ever, the 756 and 76T fleets will become one.
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Old 07-25-2014, 03:30 PM
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Deuce - first and most importantly - welcome to United Airlines ! Wear your half-wing proudly and enjoy the free beers/coffee and food for your entire first year. It is a United tradition that is a way for us to "pay it forward" to the newest among us. We remember where you are at and it can be overwhelming.

As for the displacement and bumps this the final shuffling of the deck for the airline to put people where they need them. It IS rare and you shouldn't have to worry about it for you personally. Just try to learn your aircraft and enjoy the lifestyle.

Never EVER answer your phone (even on RSV) - just get your voicemail and go from there.

Know the ALPA PDR system well it is one stop shopping for all things ALPA.

You have come at the beginning of the hiring cycle which will pay dividends your entire career.

And always always call a 737 a Guppy/A320 FiFi /747 a Whale

Deuce,

While I'm sure shrek is a nice guy , here's the deal...

This a job...a good job...but a j-o-b nonetheless. Don't be that nerd who gets consumed by this job. Here are rules that have kept me sane the past 8 years...

1. Show up on time.
2. Have fun on the job. Don't be a douche and don't get wrapped up around the axle about anything related to said job.
3. When the job is complete, get the heck home ASAP to friends and family...which is WAY more important than said job.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

And call the 737 a 737, an A320 an Airbus, and a 747 a 747. We are the only dorks in the airline industry that call airliners cute little names. If it's a military jet...diff story.
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Old 07-25-2014, 05:35 PM
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Come on. The LUAL guys aren't mocking the 737 by calling it the guppy. We aren't taking shots at your masculinity. For most it us a term of endearment.
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Old 07-25-2014, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DeuceMountain
So perhaps you more experienced folks wouldn't mind educating a noob about this… I'm a poolie awaiting training, and can't help but wonder how often these shake-ups have occurred in the past few years. Is this just a product of the merger? Do those of you who've been here a while feel like this will be the new norm? Not that I'm going anywhere else, mind you--just trying to wrap my head around the culture.
Deuce, I've only been with UA a year, but I've been an airline pilot for 17 years, so this isn't my first rodeo. Decisions like this are not made lightly (in spite of what some on here might say or think), because they are expensive, time-consuming, and a logistical nightmare. And did I mention, it's also expensive? In fact, this is an airline, and at some point, it will get messed up. Some of that will be the fault of the company in some form or fashion (scheduling things too tightly or trying to "guess" what the pilots will do) and some won't be (one guy getting sick or having a family emergency can wreak havoc on a sim schedule for months).

These seismic shifts are rare, and in this case, apparently quite necessary due to the disparity in the pilot groups, fleets, block hours, and the distribution of flying. Once it's sorted, things will be much more predictable going forward. It might take 2 years (or more), but it will eventually get there.

My advice: just jump in, have fun...don't buy a house in a domicile anytime soon!
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Old 07-25-2014, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Any chance they waive seat locks to make needed movement happen?
8-E-6-b If a Pilot is awarded a vacancy out of a Category affected by displacement during the period described in Section 8-E-6-a, he shall be entitled to a paid move in accordance with Section 10, and shall not be subject to a freeze pursuant to Section 8-D. The number of displacements within the affected Category shall be reduced by the number of such awarded pilots.
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Old 07-26-2014, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Scrappy
And call the 737 a 737, an A320 an Airbus, and a 747 a 747. We are the only dorks in the airline industry that call airliners cute little names. If it's a military jet...diff story.
This again????

Every airline has nicknames for certain planes.

My buddy at SWA has an email address that contains the word "guppy".

So…you're wrong.

I think it's just an unnecessary inferiority complex the LCAL guys have since most of their flying was on the 737. They get their feelings hurt when their 737-900ER is called a guppy.

GMAB.

Airplane nicknames have been around since the beginning.

Get on board and have some fun with it.
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Old 07-26-2014, 02:48 AM
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Does anyone really care what some people call the aircraft?!?! What is this? Third grade?!?!
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Old 07-26-2014, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Pkcola
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And yet you don't hear of CAL guys trying to bait and purposely irritate the UAL ones with sophomoric digs. The enemy is Jeffy, focus people.

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Old 07-26-2014, 06:09 AM
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And yet you don't hear of CAL guys trying to bait and purposely irritate the UAL ones with sophomoric digs. The enemy is Jeffy, focus people.
Haters b hatin.
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