jsled

Today's C33 Denver meeting was attended by <20 members, of which NONE were L-CAL. The Chairman's message was about unity and the ALPA PAC.

Alpa Pins...wear them. Our early openers for the next contract are about 18 months away. Time to start showing unity. If you are not happy with Alpa due to the SLI, contract 2012, or whatever..wear your pin upside down, but wear it. There are <100 guys that CAN"T wear the pin, don't be a slick tie. Show unity.

PAC...NAI's scheme to fly under an Irish certificate (flag of convenience) is a BIG deal. You can help fight this and the next threat to our careers with an Alpa PAC contribution. Sign up for the Century Club ($8.34/mo), Capitol Club ($20/month), President's Cirlce ($41.67/month), or splurge for the the Behncke Cirle ($83.34/month). It's easy, cheap, and effective. In Washington, money talks, BS walks. Just do it!

That is all.

Hilltopper89

+1. People who persist on disunity and conflict are an issue. Flew with one last week...and he had the ballz to complain that the culture sucks. Well, then, help us change it, jackball. Complained about everything, all the time. Could not have been around a more miserable human in my lifetime. Get over yourself and realize how incredible your life is.

Short Bus Drive

Flew with two "listers" recently wearing the pins...
SMH.....

El Gwopo

For those <100 guys who CAN'T wear the pin. Are they not allowed to wear it?

jsled

Yes. I was refering to the L-UAL scabs. They cannot and do not wear an ALPA pin because they know they will be called out on it. On the CAL side all was forgiven, the way I understand it, when they re-certified (I didn't say forgotten, just forgiven).

But this is not a scab thread, this is a unity thread. There is no reason to walk around with a slick tie. It shows disunitiy and it ticks people off who are supposed to be on your team.

NFLUALNFL

"It shows disunitiy and it ticks people off who are supposed to be on your team."

....even if you don't really like or support everything the union is doing (like many of us).

jsled

Then wear it upside down to show your displeasure.

sovt

Lets see. I'm support an organization that on a regular basis has done everything they can to harm my career.

I won't even go into my pre SLI career (26 years in good standing) and the harm that was done there by bad policy decisions. Lets look post SLI.

1. In place recall. Sole effect, harm L-CAL pilots.
2. BAT. Sole effect, harm L-CAL pilots.
3. Open new 757 bases without allowing L-CAL pilots to bid them. Sole effect, harm L-CAL pilots.
4. Not allowing L-CAL pilots to bid all our vacation in our normal bidding cycle. Sole effect, harm L-CAL pilots.
......

Yup, you guys want unity. Good luck.

EWRflyr

The vacation bidding is the easiest to address:

If by "our normal bidding cycle" you mean the schedule that was in the previous L-CAL contract, than sorry it doesn't exist and isn't the "normal bidding cycle" now.

L-CAL pilots had the same opportunity to bid for their vacation as L-UAL pilots because we are all United pilots under one vacation bidding system. I was able to bid all my vacation under the current bidding cycle.

The vacation bidding process was a complete cluster and mess from the beginning. As a result it was rushed and "fixed" and reworked as the bidding process went along. That is ALL the company's fault and everyone was affected by it. I would agree that the rushed process caused bidding errors and a bit of confusion though.

Unity is what people make of it. I am looking forward. I have welcomed all pilots onto the flight. I have gone out of my way to help L-UAL pilots when they have asked me questions. I will not be part of pilots suing pilots either because an outcome wasn't something someone liked. I will not be a miserable person going forward and take it out on my fellow pilots. Unity takes work and effort. We have no one to blame but ourselves if we don't make the choice to move forward as one pilot group to make this airline succeed. Right now management is doing plenty on its own to mess things up; they certainly don't need our help in doing the same.

tmac3333

"No L-cal pilots in attendance" comment is total bs jsled. Enough with that garbage. Who cares? How many LCAL pilots are DEN based anyway? Get over the LCAL LUAL stuff, right now you are as much the problem as the people you are complaining about. Unity thread, yeah right.