jsled

Airhoss....you are a rebel.

BTW. Are you G.A. ?

Captain Oval

Does middle seat dh pay go as add pay for reserves? What about trips out of Lga? I see that they paid me for both when I go through with F8 but not on the first page

missingbite

I just got the same letter. I plan on responding that they need to submit a pay claim with detailed information of days, flights, airports to/from of travel, etc. etc. in order for me to approve. BTW, since I can't see any info of my pay register back then it may take 30/60 days for me to research the information.

Works that way for them.....

APC225

I heard that DALALPA has one or two full-time admin who do nothing but check pay, and that they recover $2m - $4m per year for the pilot group.

CRM114

To delay the company's ability to collect, you need to know which state laws apply. Here's an example of NY law, but it's important to check the state department of labor site and learn the local law.

FAQ: Making Wage Deductions To Recover Inadvertent Overpayment Of Wages And Repayment Of Advances To Employees - Employment and HR - United States

It would also be helpful to know IL statutes in case they feel that since HQ is IL, then IL law applies.

Section 300

Bottom line: the employer is entitled to recover overpayment of wages, however, depending on when it's discovered the employee may have leverage to influence a repayment schedule. Know your rights (all 3 of them!)

missingbite

I agree. However the Union need to be involved as the letter I received just stated a time period that I was over paid for travel. I want specifics and will research the info. Them just saying trust us we overpaid you sometime in Jan/Fed of 13 for travel to and from training is not sufficient.

CRM114

Yeah, call the MEC office although there's nothing in section 3 or section 21 that addresses overpayment, so what do you grieve in the end game? I do agree that it's important to file a PDR to add data points to yet another failure by the company.

One strategy is to dispute the over payment and state that your pay records reflect an accurate payment history shifting the burden of proof to them. I'm not sure how get records that they otherwise won't make available.

If EVERY pilot were to file a dispute on every trip, maybe they'd add adequate manpower or a system that works.

missingbite

That's the whole point of this to me. The letter asks for my permission to dock my pay to pay them back without details of the overpayment. I will and would hope ALL pilots involved would ask for VERY specific circumstances of the overpayment. That's what they ask of us. If nothing else it will be a month or two longer that they get their money back. I have no problem paying them back as long as it's legitimate. With the info they provided and me not being able to see pay registers that far back I can't tell. We all know how well the IT and other departments work. It's a total shame that we EVER have to fill out a pay claim. They seem to mess up a lot on what we are owed.

Have any of you ever gotten a letter that said, 'Oh sorry, WE realized WE forgot to pay you X number of hours last month so here's a check for the difference.'? It's always up to us to find the mistakes and there have been plenty!!!

CRM114

I agree completely, my point is that the company has the right to recover an overpayment. It's up to you to use applicable state law to make it as convenient for you as possible.

I would absolutely dispute the claim and request documentation if the claim is questionable. I'd also keep the MEC in the loop, but contractually I think there is a limit to what they can do.

Good luck!

Airhoss

Why yes, yes I am.