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03-12-2014, 08:44 PM

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pilot64golfer

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Originally Posted by CleCapt

Steve paid for pizzas for lunch out of his own pocket for annual ground school in Cleveland.

Not sure he fits your cheapskate comment. Although most pilots are cheap.

I wasn't talking about Steve. I was talking about the phrase "A pilot's pilot". We were making fun of pilots. Not Steve.

Pilots are backstabbers.
Pilots are cheap.

Get it now?

03-12-2014, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CRM114

Could you remind the peanut gallery who Steve Arnold is, and are you saying that flight ops could get worse than it is now?

Steve Arnold is a great guy, sharp, talented, backs pilots 100%, nice guy to talk to, goes out of his way to help you out.

03-12-2014, 09:25 PM

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Tailwind

You sure this pilot, guy or gal, will report to JW?

I read the advertised description on Skynet and it sounded like JWs job.

As far as Arnold goes I don't know him for a hole in he ground. Remember no matter how nice he may seem he is not there to be your advocate and friend.

However, the point is who will remain when the culture wars at the top are complete. You all think we have grudges here in the trenches, well so do they.

03-13-2014, 05:58 AM

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CleCapt

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Originally Posted by pilot64golfer

I wasn't talking about Steve. I was talking about the phrase "A pilot's pilot". We were making fun of pilots. Not Steve.

Pilots are backstabbers.
Pilots are cheap.

Get it now?

I get it now, only problem is Steve Arnold IS a pilot, therefore I thought you must be including him in that group.

Steve or any of the other good guys won't change this place overnight. But I do feel a lot better knowing he is in the mix.

I also believe Steve is still subject to the orders of those above him.

So until we weed out others at the top, the good guys won't be able to rise to the top.

03-13-2014, 06:53 AM

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It's has been proven that **** floats to the top eventually. Would you ever thought that JP would float to the top? He did and you stood by and allowed it to happen - creating the situation we're in. Wasn't he a pilots pilot?

03-13-2014, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bottoms up

I believe he was the old Cleveland Chief back in the day then the IAH Chief.
Have heard "Oh he's a Pilot's Pilot" which usually means he will stab you in the back. Have also heard good/bad which usually means he will tell you before he stabs you in the back.

I come from the black side and have never had any dealing with him but I distrust everyone in there. Tainted..Every last one of them...

Sorry I meant system chief pilot not IAH chief. Wasn't he or am I just really out of the loop? I kinda just show up and go home so really don't know the ever changing face of our bases.
I still hold reservations when I hear the words pilot advocate. Been burned before so that may be why I hold a grudge.
But if he can maintain what others are saying without succumbing to the pressures from above hats off to him