Originally Posted by syd111

Now thats funny. By the way run it by us again, when were you hired, what equipment are you on and what equipment were you on in 2000-2001?

With you last comment feel free to pm me you info and would be more than happy to discuss one on one in person.

Originally Posted by hopeSales

I don't think that's a threat - is it?

Originally Posted by hopeSales

No Syd, I look at what the UAL group lost post 9/11 and it amazes me how you as an individual can't see past what you lost compared to the loses of other pilots in the group. if you are a 777 Captain, you're like all 777/400 Captains who lost some but no where near what the bottom 2-3,000 pilots and many in the middle of the list lost. Was it the pilots fault for not being able to foresee the events and plan accordingly, NO! Was it the poor ALPA leadership? probable when you look at the cast of characters with their hands in the pot(Whiteford, Bathhurst, Wallach, Morris, Heppner). Did management play a role. Most definitely, the airline industry had been shut down for a few weeks when Jim Goodwin got on national TV and stated that if United keep losing money at this rate - we'd be in bankruptcy next year. Didn't take the money people long to realize what could happen if the events carried on any longer and we got "good ol Glenn" to maximum their return while selling off assets and destroying lives. I know that's a lot of BS to you but can you really be that selfish to expect a premium contract given what the MEC was working with. Jeff and the CAL MEC working together against our UAL MEC to ensure the CAL way of live would continue at the expense of the UAL pilots. What was that way of life? Jeff wanting to keep cal work rules, cal MEC trying to stealing Captain seat, seniority, PS, delaying JCBA and the list goes on.

All of that was to say this - in the 4 years leading up to 9/11, I made between 200,000 to 225,000 a year. Afterwards I saw a constant erosion of pay through surpluses, bump, equipment base closures, parked airplanes. Do I feel entitled - NO! - and neither should you. The bottom of the list was hit the hardest, with the middle of the list not far behind. To get any contract that stop the blood bath going on at those senority levels was well worth it. Even though SYD wasn't made whole, you and I have time to make it up and if we don't have time to do that then we can feel good that we did the right thing. Carry On!

Originally Posted by APC225

Grievance has been granted. I hope they pay each LUAL pilot another profit sharing check for that year equal to the original one and we can move forward from this incredibly short-sighted agreement outside the TPA.

Originally Posted by krudawg

I thought this profit sharing grievance was dead. Can someone splain this or is this just an old post and people are overreacting to a dead issue.