Vacancy bid 14-07
03-06-2014, 08:43 AM
#21
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Really? Because they just announced they are investing more capital in the A320, changing a 777 line to an A320 line for in house Maint in SFO, and increased the life at UAL for the A320 to 2025. We will be first to paperless, and first with reconfigured cabins with the wifi/streaming TV content.
Here's the thing.... The 757 still kicks it's butt to fly. Much more fun. So I'm not an Airbus apologist. It'll do fine EWR west. BOS, not so much. TV screens in the cabin are all fine and good, but that technology is giving way. Even Virgin's CEO admitted they wouldn't have put TV's in the seats if today's tech had been available when they ordered their fleet. It's heavy and expensive. Sure the 737's are shiny and new..... and cramped. Simple math, there is more width in the A320 passenger cabin than the 737 or 757. And I'm pretty sure you don't want to talk about the cockpit comfort. If what you say is true, and they break all the time (it's not and they don't), I'm REALLY comfortable up there waiting for it to be fixed!
Cheap and plasticy? Yes. Goofy avionics? Yes. Reliable as a Boeing? Well, depends. More reliable than the 747, that's for sure! But much of that has to do with how much $$ UAL has decided to invest in them over the years. I haven't noticed any appreciable difference in the A320 reliability vs the 757/767 when I was on that. But it's a nice airplane, VERY comfortable, quiet, capable, and pleasant to fly. And it's here until 2025 which is a good thing for ALL of us
Here's the thing.... The 757 still kicks it's butt to fly. Much more fun. So I'm not an Airbus apologist. It'll do fine EWR west. BOS, not so much. TV screens in the cabin are all fine and good, but that technology is giving way. Even Virgin's CEO admitted they wouldn't have put TV's in the seats if today's tech had been available when they ordered their fleet. It's heavy and expensive. Sure the 737's are shiny and new..... and cramped. Simple math, there is more width in the A320 passenger cabin than the 737 or 757. And I'm pretty sure you don't want to talk about the cockpit comfort. If what you say is true, and they break all the time (it's not and they don't), I'm REALLY comfortable up there waiting for it to be fixed!
Cheap and plasticy? Yes. Goofy avionics? Yes. Reliable as a Boeing? Well, depends. More reliable than the 747, that's for sure! But much of that has to do with how much $$ UAL has decided to invest in them over the years. I haven't noticed any appreciable difference in the A320 reliability vs the 757/767 when I was on that. But it's a nice airplane, VERY comfortable, quiet, capable, and pleasant to fly. And it's here until 2025 which is a good thing for ALL of us
03-06-2014, 09:07 AM
#22
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Just brought a jumbo guppy (900ER) up from Florida yesterday. Too underpowered to top the clouds/turbulence as we watched the Fifis climb right out of it. Of course, we beat them on landing distance as they made the early turnoff based on a reasonable approach speed. We, on the other hand, took the last high speed since we had a target speed not unlike a orbital re-entry vehicle.
I disdain shortsighted management and the lack of foresight to see the 737 is at the end of its engineering life.
03-06-2014, 09:28 AM
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Now that SLI is done we need to break out the 747,777, and A-350s back to the premium pay they deserve.
Just look at the rates in C2000, where 747-400 Captains made over $300 per hour.
03-06-2014, 09:47 AM
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It sounds nice to say that over and over again but it simply isn't true when you compare us to Delta. We are basically one year behind Delta on the pay scales and anyway you look at it the 747 and 777 are commensurate pay wise. What is different is our 787 is higher.
03-06-2014, 09:58 AM
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FIFY
Just brought a jumbo guppy (900ER) up from Florida yesterday. Too underpowered to top the clouds/turbulence as we watched the Fifis climb right out of it. Of course, we beat them on landing distance as they made the early turnoff based on a reasonable approach speed. We, on the other hand, took the last high speed since we had a target speed not unlike a orbital re-entry vehicle.
I disdain shortsighted management and the lack of foresight to see the 737 is at the end of its engineering life.
Just brought a jumbo guppy (900ER) up from Florida yesterday. Too underpowered to top the clouds/turbulence as we watched the Fifis climb right out of it. Of course, we beat them on landing distance as they made the early turnoff based on a reasonable approach speed. We, on the other hand, took the last high speed since we had a target speed not unlike a orbital re-entry vehicle.
I disdain shortsighted management and the lack of foresight to see the 737 is at the end of its engineering life.
Given the average US passenger is looking for the cheapest fare possible, they are getting what they paid for. Since all three of the largest US airlines will be flying both, it's not much of a worry to me which one they chose.
03-06-2014, 10:23 AM
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03-06-2014, 10:29 AM
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And yes, it seems many Airbus operators have different procedures to deal with it during single engine taxi or parking.
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03-06-2014, 10:37 AM
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The training pipeline remains the bottleneck and UAL is trying to put as many new-hires on line as possible. (The fact that the pool is not being drained speaks for itself.) In addition, I believe this bid is simply a re-bid for vacancies that were not filled from a prior bid and had to be advertised again with new effective dates.
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