SpecialTracking

It really is that simple. Could all of this lack of information at almost every turn be by design?

nopac6

In other words, since it hasn't affected Moombabeach PERSONALLY (yet), we should all stop complaining about it.

Jaded N Cynical

Pick up times are vague at best. This lack of information has been prevalent at CAL for years. Just leave it up to the crews to figure out. What is comical is we trust the operation to the front desk clerk, or van driver to help us figure it out. I actually saw a guy get angry because the hotel clerk didn't know.

If the pick up time was important, it would be published somewhere. The way I approach it is, if its not written somewhere.....I just show up 1:30 prior to departure in the lobby at downtown locations, and 1 hour before departure at short layover hotels. If the van isn't there, it's one call, and one call only to crew coordination. I usually tell the coordinator I'll be in my room to have the van call my room when they arrive. We get there when we get there.


Lack of information is more and more common these days. The lack of true leadership becomes more evident everyday.

nopac6

That's probably the most sensible way to look at it. Standing around the lobby for 20 or 30 minutes is annoying but it's not the end of the world. It's just that it never happened until we switched to CCS. That, coupled with the fact that the problem is SO easily solved is what makes it so aggravating.

One other aspect is that on the 777, pickup time confusion and the resulting late departure puts you behind the 8-ball on the "going-home" leg which sucks for everybody but especially commuters.

Airhoss

And here's how it went down on my last five layovers. Van driver do you know what our pick up time is tomorrow? "Nope" but you can call our dispatcher they should know. I'm Not going to do it. It wasn't on the hotel sign in sheet either. This is an easy fix and we shouldn't have to go to war with management idiots to get it fixed. It should go like this; We need pick up times on the ID's. Okay we'll have it in their tomorrow thanks for letting us know. However this company will do NOTHING unless they are threatened with a penalty of some kind, it's kind of like dealing with an unruly teenager, they turn a simple fix into a major ordeal just because they can. The recently fixed FIFO list has proven that to be true. You have to threaten them to get them to do the most simplistic things.

So it doesn't really matter if you've gotten lucky with your pick up times. The SIMPLE fix is put them on the printable ID's. How basic does it have to be for you, take ALL the guess work right out of the equation, WOW, it's really not that hard to understand!!

Moombabeach

No that's not what I said or meant but for what I get paid I can dial a few digits on my phone. Would be nice to have it printed but I'm not going to throw a tantrum, sit in my room and then charge a cab when the driver is waiting to pick me up. You want to get paid like a manager then act like one. Not that big of a deal. It's life, deal with it.

UASnake

I don't want to get paid like a manager, I want to be paid like a professional pilot. My version of the job description does not include doing admin work that someone else in the UCH org. is getting paid to do, and not doing.

CRM114

Careful with that overdeveloped sense of self-importance there boss.

I'm a line pilot, not a manager, although I do expect airline managers to provide the resources for me to do my job AND fulfill their contractual agreement (so far, this management is proving they can't do either).

More line pilots are realizing that it's not their responsibility to "run" the airline as you suggest. Habitually bailing managers out of poor performance only masks the incompetence of our "leadership".

Moombabeach

I don't have an overdeveloped sense of importance, realize you are paid well to do a job and have a vested interest in the success of this Airline. I guess some of us just have a little more work ethic. Our leadership is what it is and will not change much over the course of your career. All you can do is do your best, go home forget this stuff and enjoy life. Don't think calling a transportation company once in a blue moon is "running the airline". I've seen guys give one call to mx to and if they don't answer sit like a turd and delay the flight. It's pathetic. You have plenty of resources available to you "boss", use them.

oldmako

Plane is busted. As per FOM, write it up (Send the MRM) and make the call. One ping.

Work "ethic" has nothing to do with it when your employer has shown zero "ethics" when it comes to your treatment and willful and repeated violation of the contract. Oh yeah, and that TRO thing.

Color me pathetic.