WS01

Hotel and transportation name and contact info is on the pairing:
If it doesn t show, click on "DP01", "DP02"... in the flight number column. It also show the layover station ops phone number.

nopac6

It's the pickup time that's being discussed in this thread. It's not shown anywhere in the pairing.

CRM114

How hard is this?

Be in ops 1 hour before departure, 1.5 for Intl., so for a 1500 departure you want to be in ops at 1330 or 1400. So far so good.

Estimate how long it takes to get form the hotel to the airport. The driver is a good resource as that's all he/she does all day. Estimate how long it takes to get through security. For example; 30 minutes to the airport and 15 minutes through security/airport transit - that's :45 minutes. How we doing so far?

Subtract the en route and airport transit time. 1400 - :45 = 1315 for a domestic departure, or 1245 for an Intl. departure.

So, you tell the hotel desk, the hotel front desk, the driver, ops, and whoever cares to listen that that's the time you're leaving the hotel.

Don't expect other to enforce your contract, they won't. In fact, is convenient for them to do what's easy, not what's contractually right.

Point being, it's up to the crew to determine the pickup time if the company can't provide contractually compliant times.

Seven6SevenDCA

That is how you do it, I get it. Now, does anybody else know where pickup times are to be found.

Toddnel

Not sure why the pairing info all disappeared post merger but we used to have the hotel info, van company name, and the phone numbers for those plus ops on the bottom of our pairings. It isn't a ccs thing, it's a management thing.

nopac6

That stuff is all still on there and very helpful. It's just the pickup time that is missing.

Toddnel

That would be a nice thing to have, prior to the merger the ISM (for international) and the FSM (Domestic) was responsible for that info on the CAL side. Don't know about the UA side flight attendant responsibilities but our ISMs on the CAL aircraft still handle everything from room keys to van times on the international side. We get an envelope with our room key, usually a crew list and a van time from them.

C11DCA

Good in theory except when you lecture about knowing the contract, you might want to know the contract yourself.

Domestic report time is :45 prior to push for everything other then first day, first leg.

Just saying....

jumppilot

You realize you're going to have to fly with these people someday, right? SoCal, I've always thought you to be a class act and someone's post to pay attention to, but I've seen another side of you tonight. A stressed out side, if you will.

Everyone relax. It's a difficult time for all of us. It will get better.

CRM114

Not trying to lecture, and no, I don't fly domestic. My point still stands that it's up to the crew to determine an adequate pickup time that is legal and meets the crew's needs. It's not rocket science by a long shot, but for the benefit of some of the FNGs, adjust the times as needed and broadcast to those who need to know.