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12-15-2013, 05:52 PM

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pilot64golfer

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Originally Posted by Probe

I have heard through the grapevine that every single lCAL bid and displacement before ISL is being trained before any lUAL pilot.

Can anyone confirm that not even the lUAL SFO 737 Capts on the SFO MOU haven't even been trained yet?

They finally got training dates in January. Yes the company is rewarding their favorite pilot group for all the concessions, scabbing, and waiving of their contract over the years.

12-15-2013, 06:26 PM

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CALFO

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Originally Posted by pilot64golfer

They finally got training dates in January. Yes the company is rewarding their favorite pilot group for all the concessions, scabbing, and waiving of their contract over the years.

Which "they" are you referring to? I know a lot of lcal pilots that haven't been trained and I have met some lual pilots that have 737 training dates.

12-15-2013, 06:34 PM

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Probe

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Long term, this could be the ultimate divide and conquer by the company. Not only do they hate us, but they have another pilot group to replace us with.

So lets extrapolate this into the next economic downturn. UAL decides to park 400's and a bunch of airbuses and furlough 2000 pilots. Again. They submit displacements, and then retrain UAL pilots 1st, and leave CAL pilots' in the left seats, out of seniority. Then stop the bumps and retraining, for 3-5 years.

Sound far-fetched? To me, no more far-fetched than disregarding completely the arbitrators's decision.

Very troubling.

12-15-2013, 06:47 PM

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CALFO

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Originally Posted by Probe

I think the "ultimate divide" of this pilot group will rest within the group itself and forums such as these.

12-15-2013, 07:10 PM

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I think most pilots are naive and haven't learned from history. We've been getting rolled for years, and still are. Watch out for Emitates and cabotage.

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12-15-2013, 07:15 PM

#16

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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald

That may be, but they can't violate the contract at their will. They signed a legally binding contract. Days of violating the contract at will should not be allowed.

Enforce your contract, insist on it!

It stops when it is financially prohibitive.

12-15-2013, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CALFO

I think the "ultimate divide" of this pilot group will rest within the group itself and forums such as these.

These forums you describe are echo chambers of the cockpit.

12-16-2013, 08:22 AM

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Moombabeach

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Originally Posted by pilot64golfer

This CAL management is used to running over the CAL pilots and getting away with it. They are just stuck in their pattern of violating the contract.

Now there's a new Sheriff in town and the company ain't going to like it.

"Excuse me while I whip this out..."

Wow we cal guys are again so lucky to have you around to help us out. LOL

12-16-2013, 09:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pilot64golfer

They finally got training dates in January. Yes the company is rewarding their favorite pilot group for all the concessions, scabbing, and waiving of their contract over the years.

Your order of cry fries and whaa burger are ready Joe Dirt.