CRM114

All the info, with the actual side letter, is available here:

Furlough Information

Note how easy the web site is to navigate and the ease with which information is found. You know, the exact opposite of the ALPA site.

Probe

So you are saying the merger integration is going smoothly?

Toddnel

The flight attendant issue is a complex one because their contract, work rules and pay are so different. As a former CAL guy I can say that the end result needs to be somewhere between what each side has now. The way our flight attendants stack trips back to back on min rest is not safe but, the era of three days of shopping for cat accessories in China is gone as well.

As far as reserve goes, the United FAs themselves put in place the system that has 25 year employees sitting rolling reserve. The CAL system is like our pilot reserve, it's bid by straight seniority. If you unlucky enough to be junior for a LONG time, you will sit reserve for a LONG time, it's not some CAL conspiracy.

My guess is United knows the CAL FAs will take more productivity for more money so they are building up the CAL side. Soon the numbers will be such that the CAL FAs can outvote the UAL FAs. Ask the NWA FAs how that worked out for them at Delta. They lost their union. It's probably in their best interest to give in a few contract areas and get their contract done sooner rather than later.

pilot64golfer

You mean like the 8000 and 9000 seniority number guppie cappies will be?

Toddnel

Exactly. But fair is fair. Junior = Reserve.

Toddnel

One question I gotta ask... What is the deal with United's fetish with calling the 73 the Guppy? For the most part the only pilot group I have ever heard calling it that is United. Not to mention it seems like most take a great deal of pleasure is saying it as much as they possibly can. Not that I really care just wondering.

Former Guppy Captain now Triple FO

Todd

pilot64golfer

Its not a fetish. We flew the aircraft for over 30 years. We always called it the guppy. Shuttle was "shuttle guppy". Mainline was "mainline guppy". 737-200 was "Thunder guppy". We are certainly not the only airline to call it that.

Its just what we called it. Why call the 777 the "Triple seven"? Why not the seven seven seven? We don't usually call the 747 the Whale. We call it the "400" because we used to have the 747-100 and 200 that were the "ropestart".

Its certainly NOT an insult, but its amazing how many pilots get all upset when we call the airplane a guppy.

I've never heard an airbus pilot get upset for falling the airbus "The Bus".

Jaded N Cynical

Call it guppy if you want, no insult to me. Do you call your comforter at home a blanky? Your friend your buddy. Maybe your wife Mommy? These are obviously the pilots who like the name things. Meet Mr. Wiggly...ahhh never mind.

Who knows....whatever works for you. Naming things is childish, but we are talking about pilots. Carry on boys.

pilot64golfer

So calling an F-14 a Tomcat or an F-18 a Hornet.

Ya... That's childish.

No one would ever do that. Except pilots since the beginning of aviation.

Every heard of the Enola Gay?

USMCFLYR

Or naming yourself something on an internet forum!
But....sometimes it just fits.