Hired at UAL without College degree?
11-19-2013, 08:25 AM
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Started at Delta in `66. We had to practically build a DC 6. The FAA treated us as if we were mechanics. I remember memorizing the functions of all five chambers of a carb. We never saw a plane or tools to work on one, but were expected to know everything. My company oral lasted 11 hours. 6 hours one day, then back the next for 5 more hours. Can`t believe that (1) I could memorize that much, and (2) how little that I can retain now. Old age is a bytch!
Sounds like a misguided yet bravado filled training program... perhaps CRM has replaced 'how many flush rivets on upper wing behind the cord line but forward of the CG?"
11-19-2013, 09:39 AM
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It's unfortunate that a captain with an associates degree is encouraged to spend 10,000 to 20,000 on a online degree. It's likely if this person is a regional pilot they will incur debt to obtain a bachelors degree.
A course like lumosity.com, traveling overseas, learning how to invest maybe more effective and fun. Taking test drinking beer and attending college is fun also.
A course like lumosity.com, traveling overseas, learning how to invest maybe more effective and fun. Taking test drinking beer and attending college is fun also.
11-19-2013, 10:02 AM
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It's unfortunate that a captain with an associates degree is encouraged to spend 10,000 to 20,000 on a online degree. It's likely if this person is a regional pilot they will incur debt to obtain a bachelors degree.
A course like lumosity.com, traveling overseas, learning how to invest maybe more effective and fun. Taking test drinking beer and attending college is fun also.
A course like lumosity.com, traveling overseas, learning how to invest maybe more effective and fun. Taking test drinking beer and attending college is fun also.
It was never a secret that a four year was looked upon favorably from the high paying airlines. For my friends that do not have a four year degree they have ton of PIC turbine time... I do not. They got a 2 or so year head start at the regional's while I was getting my degree. Maybe I will get hired at that legacy job before they do because of it, maybe not.
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11-19-2013, 10:04 AM
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I hate to say it, but I honestly don't want to fly with a person who thought that getting a two year degree and flying for Mesa was all that's required to fly for a major----particularly when there are thousands of other applicants with better experience, better personalities, and four year degrees. It's like brining a knife to a gunfight.
In fact, this particularly demonstrates low SA considering that a four year degree has been a virtual requirement for every major airline since before they were born even if it is not a published minimum. (The exception, obviously, has been various structured flow-through programs over the years.)
With ~15k apps on file UAL can --and should-- be very selective.
11-19-2013, 11:32 AM
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I guess all the pilots with 2 year degrees should work for LLC like Jet Blue, Virgin, Spirt, Allegiant air, Emirates, Hawaiian. When United asks for pay cuts in the future to be more cost competitive your group can say wait we are better pilots we have four year degrees and are worth more.
11-19-2013, 11:48 AM
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I guess all the pilots with 2 year degrees should work for LLC like Jet Blue, Virgin, Spirt, Allegiant air, Emirates, Hawaiian. When United asks for pay cuts in the future to be more cost competitive your group can say wait we are better pilots we have four year degrees and are worth more.
So if that example makes sense to this scenario, you can either A: Get the 4 year that the Legacy carriers want, or B: Go to an airline that matches your qualifications better.
11-19-2013, 12:20 PM
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Instead of looking at it like that, you can look at it that pilots with 2 year degrees go to airlines that align more with their qualifications. For an example, say I wanted to work for Southwest. I Don't have 1000 hours of TPIC. Instead of getting upset with Southwest's criteria and throw a back handed comment in the direction of SWA and their pilots I can either A: Get my TPIC that SWA wants or B: Go to an airline that my experience and background align with.
So if that example makes sense to this scenario, you can either A: Get the 4 year that the Legacy carriers want, or B: Go to an airline that matches your qualifications better.
So if that example makes sense to this scenario, you can either A: Get the 4 year that the Legacy carriers want, or B: Go to an airline that matches your qualifications better.
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