LegacyCALPilots.com
10-16-2013, 08:20 PM
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LegacyCALPilots.com
Has anyone seen this site? These are the CAL pilots suing to overturn the SLI award. Here are some of my favorite quotes from the website.
"Our primary attorney has been described as a bulldog...one who won't let go once he gets ahold of something..." (Forgot to mention that he's already ordered that new Mercedes the L-CAL pilots will help him pay for)
"We felt that we were better off alone, as an independent company, and that our jobs, our careers, and our families lives were sacrificed to save a dying company, which analysts were saying that we would be buying parts of in a 2010 liquidation Filing" <--- If you Google this you will find exactly ZERO analysts that said this.
"The overnight effect on our careers was like eminent domain, where the government just came in and took our property. One day it’s yours, and the next day it’s been given to a United guy who’s not even working. It just seems like an unlawful seizure of property to me." <--- Translation "They are 'un-doing" the out of seniority upgrading we had for the last three years and we aren't happy about it."
"In a precedent setting decision that shocked the industry, National Mediation Board arbitrators Dana E. Eischen, Roger P. Kaplan, and Dennis R. Nolan seemed to have used their own sense of justice to advance 1,445 furloughed United pilots ahead of their working and employed peers at Continental." <--- Notice they left out the most recent merger under the new policy which did exactly the same thing.
"And though there may still be something wrong with us, it may be something different than what we thought. Sometimes it's not as bad, and other times its even worse. The problem is, that it needs to be looked at by an expert, and WE can only accurately describe our symptoms." <--- Speaks for itself.
"If there aren't facts to support an argument, then there simply isn't an argument." <--- The "facts" they reference are the same ones the L-CAL MC put forth as you read through them.
"The arbitrators ignored evidence, and gave credit to the legacy United pilots for the company's prior poor management of over hiring of pilots." <--- If United was so overstaffed, then why recall all the pilots and hire new ones at the same time? I don't think anyone bought this one.
" They even stripped me of the credit of last three years I’ve been working so they could give a more favorable outcome to the United pilots" <--- The failed 2013 merger date strategy, which didn't work.
"The arbitrators in this CAL-UAL Seniority Arbitration Award & Opinion did not give either side an opportunity to revise their positions, and simply chose a winner-take-all approach." <--- The strategy all along was to take an extreme position. Just like this LCAL lawsuit regurgitating all the L-CAL talking points that no one else agreed with.
"Our counter parts (L-UAL pilots) as a group, however, are very litigious in nature, and spring-loaded to fight over anything. We should emulate them.." <---huh?
"Our primary attorney has been described as a bulldog...one who won't let go once he gets ahold of something..." (Forgot to mention that he's already ordered that new Mercedes the L-CAL pilots will help him pay for)
"We felt that we were better off alone, as an independent company, and that our jobs, our careers, and our families lives were sacrificed to save a dying company, which analysts were saying that we would be buying parts of in a 2010 liquidation Filing" <--- If you Google this you will find exactly ZERO analysts that said this.
"The overnight effect on our careers was like eminent domain, where the government just came in and took our property. One day it’s yours, and the next day it’s been given to a United guy who’s not even working. It just seems like an unlawful seizure of property to me." <--- Translation "They are 'un-doing" the out of seniority upgrading we had for the last three years and we aren't happy about it."
"In a precedent setting decision that shocked the industry, National Mediation Board arbitrators Dana E. Eischen, Roger P. Kaplan, and Dennis R. Nolan seemed to have used their own sense of justice to advance 1,445 furloughed United pilots ahead of their working and employed peers at Continental." <--- Notice they left out the most recent merger under the new policy which did exactly the same thing.
"And though there may still be something wrong with us, it may be something different than what we thought. Sometimes it's not as bad, and other times its even worse. The problem is, that it needs to be looked at by an expert, and WE can only accurately describe our symptoms." <--- Speaks for itself.
"If there aren't facts to support an argument, then there simply isn't an argument." <--- The "facts" they reference are the same ones the L-CAL MC put forth as you read through them.
"The arbitrators ignored evidence, and gave credit to the legacy United pilots for the company's prior poor management of over hiring of pilots." <--- If United was so overstaffed, then why recall all the pilots and hire new ones at the same time? I don't think anyone bought this one.
" They even stripped me of the credit of last three years I’ve been working so they could give a more favorable outcome to the United pilots" <--- The failed 2013 merger date strategy, which didn't work.
"The arbitrators in this CAL-UAL Seniority Arbitration Award & Opinion did not give either side an opportunity to revise their positions, and simply chose a winner-take-all approach." <--- The strategy all along was to take an extreme position. Just like this LCAL lawsuit regurgitating all the L-CAL talking points that no one else agreed with.
"Our counter parts (L-UAL pilots) as a group, however, are very litigious in nature, and spring-loaded to fight over anything. We should emulate them.." <---huh?
