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Old 10-10-2013, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
Amen. IMHO, the 757 is THE most capable aircraft ever built. I was on it for seven years and it was an impressive machine whether it was a transcon, Europe, Quito/Bogota, or the Caribbean.
Then why in the world is it not being built anymore/ why are we parking them them????
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by XHooker
Did you have pay banding before the merger?

How did pre-merger UAL 757 pay compare to pre-merger CAL 737 pay?

Lastly, below your avatar, you imply you lost 2300 numbers in the SLI. Care to explain the math behind your reasoning on that?
UAL 757 paid more than CAL 737. Even the Airbus paid more than the guppy. Yes we had pay banding, but not 767 to 747 or guppy to 757.

The 2,300 is how many numbers I dropped in the SLI. So I "lost" that seniority. It will take about 5-6 years to get to my old number.
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by socalflyboy
Then why in the world is it not being built anymore/ why are we parking them them????
Because airlines are now run by a-holes who worship the almighty spreadsheet, not by guys who have real-world, operational experience.
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
I was pass traveling and one of our 737s couldn't make a trip 3/4 across the country without removing 15 passengers because it was too heavy.

9 years on the Airbus doing mostly transcons and I've never had seats blocked off or passengers removed.
15 yrs on the 737 and never left people! They wanted to in Denver during a snow storm! However, after I talked to dispatch and load plan switched runway and got everyone on. I guess you just were unlucky!
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:37 PM
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15 yrs on the 737 and never left people! They wanted to in Denver during a snow storm! However, after I talked to dispatch and load plan switched runway and got everyone on. I guess you just were unlucky!
Unlucky? Almost EVERY guppy flying to Hawaii from LAX or SFO has seats blocked. When you fly a bunch of small hops like at a regional you are probably ok, but replacing 757 flying with a guppy is a bad idea.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
Unlucky? Almost EVERY guppy flying to Hawaii from LAX or SFO has seats blocked. When you fly a bunch of small hops like at a regional you are probably ok, but replacing 757 flying with a guppy is a bad idea.
Been doing Hawaii 2-3 times a month for the last year without one weight restriction or held seat. I just must be lucky.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
UAL 757 paid more than CAL 737. Even the Airbus paid more than the guppy. Yes we had pay banding, but not 767 to 747 or guppy to 757.

The 2,300 is how many numbers I dropped in the SLI. So I "lost" that seniority. It will take about 5-6 years to get to my old number.
Not sure what numbers you are using but the 737 payrates at CAL premerger were much higher than UAL 757 and A320. Max Captain pay on the 737 was $169.00 with FO pay at $116.00.

UALs rates were as follows:
A320 - CA $137.14
A320 - FO $93.66

B757 - CA $158.94
B757 - FO $109.64

Now you can argue that if all you flew was -700 series, you would make less but since all the -500 and -300's were gone by the merger, the odds of flying a small narrowbody were very small.
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:31 AM
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The 757's are great aircraft, my personal favorite, but they are being parked because some of ours are very old. They are not being built because no one was ordering them.

700's and 800's are capable, but I think the 900 and ER are not a good fit for N America. We have too many small, inner city airports. They are fine for Asia where most runways are sea level and 12k + feet.

Our 320's are getting up there as well. The 320 and 321 that you can take delivery of today, are more capable than UAL's. They are much less performance limited than 800 and 900's.

I think the 900's are a mistake. I will take a 321 any day.
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Originally Posted by Probe
The 757's are great aircraft, my personal favorite, but they are being parked because some of ours are very old. They are not being built because no one was ordering them.

700's and 800's are capable, but I think the 900 and ER are not a good fit for N America. We have too many small, inner city airports. They are fine for Asia where most runways are sea level and 12k + feet.

Our 320's are getting up there as well. The 320 and 321 that you can take delivery of today, are more capable than UAL's. They are much less performance limited than 800 and 900's.

I think the 900's are a mistake. I will take a 321 any day.
Again I wasn't saying the 73 was better or a replacement to the 757. I think the -900er is a mistake but I know they ordered them for their seat mile cost as it is the lowest out there except the 757-300.

Just FYI the -800 is probably the best and has no real limitations domestically. It has great range and about the right amount of seats.
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
Unlucky? Almost EVERY guppy flying to Hawaii from LAX or SFO has seats blocked. When you fly a bunch of small hops like at a regional you are probably ok, but replacing 757 flying with a guppy is a bad idea.
Nevermind then! Just look at all the responses to your posts to contradict what you're saying. Careful, don't let the facts get in your way!!
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