DaMnad

Class starting today was 12 EWR 737 f/o, per the newhire HR folks.

stknrdr

What? Where is this information from? We have been able to bid away from our initial seats as uhires since day one. No seat lock.

Short Bus Drive

Nope. In the contract (old and new). However it is an equipment lock with some caveats.
Also, I believe there might be some uhires thant the lock expired.

Could be wrong.

LAX Pilot

These are essentially NEW POSITIONS that were not available to those pilots. They should be allowed to bid them. Its like opening a new base.

It doesn't make sense that a new hire can get a IAD base, but a guy that lives there that never had that option of airplane or base before is limited because of a training freeze.

Zoomie

I think you're wrong.

These openings are NEW base openings for CAL to UAL and vice versa, thus a seat lock would not apply.

Did you try and bid to a new seat across the aisle?

Were you unable?

I'm pretty sure if you wanted to bid any of the bases that weren't available to you previously, you could do so. The only restriction was there needs to be a vacancy.

Anyone on the CAL side could have bid any of these vacancies, even U-hires.

There weren't hardly any 2ndary vacancies on the CAL side and won't be for some time because no one in their right mind currently in a CAL hub would bid a UAL hub and lose 50-60% seniority in base unless they were a commuter and could go home by bidding there.

Take a look at those that moved and about 90% of the people moving were L-UAL moving into vacancies, most of them moving into L-CAL bases.

Even U-hires, why would they bid A320 and be the junior guy on the totem pole when they can bid 737 in the same base and be at 50-80%?

Mach93

Yes I bid 320 ORD as my first choice and yes I was denied.

Zoomie

And what is your current status? Are you a U-hire? What base are you in and when did you return to UAL/CAL? Are you currently in training for another aircraft?

Mach93

Yes, I'm a Uhire. I have been here a year. The Uhires were equipment lock so they were not allowed to bid any 320 slots as it was considered same pay equipment. I should correct myself though. Uhires were allowed to bid former UAL 400,777,76T equipment (because that was an increase in pay.) The only former UAL equipment that we were frozen out of was the 320. Also, for the record, I'm on the Guppy.

jetlink

On this last bid you should have been able to bid A320 without restrictions.

Freddriver5

I hope your misinformed...that would suck for both the recalls and the company. Sewark for the recalls and six months of positive space for the company. I wouldn't wish Newark on my enemy....