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Old 10-07-2013, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
Not directed at any specific post but rather for everybody's benefit in the future, note that the UPA specifically permits a UAL pilot to jumpseat on a weight-restricted flight. (FWIW, this was carried over from the L-UAL contract.)

21-J-4 A United Airlines Pilot shall be allowed to travel on jumpseat authority and occupy the cockpit jumpseat(s) on a weight restricted flight.


And yes, I have seen a revenue passenger removed with compensation to put a jumpseater onboard.
The FOM goes even further. Read 10.20.4 Weight an Balance. United pilots and must ride jumpseaters must not be denied boarding due to weight restrictions. This would not only be a violation of the contract but a violation of the company policy.
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
At least the Airbus have 2 jumpseats unlike the whistling **** bucket of a guppy.
I know, or like that bucket of bolts UAL 757-200s with only one jumpseat.
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:54 PM
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I'm in the right seat, but I still do all I can to let help out a somebody trying to commute.

Step 1. Try to greet the person in the departure lounge, and let him/her know that we're aware of the situation.

Step 2. Let the CA and agent know about the commuter.

Step 3. 10-15 prior, go back to the departure lounge to ensure nobody is left behind. If it can't be avoided, I'll apologize, and explain why.

Most CA's will try their best to get a commuter on, even if they themselves don't commute. The handful of times I've had a CA who doesn't care, it's always the REALLY senior people who don't commute, and say that commuting is a choice.
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Old 10-07-2013, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyflyin
I know, or like that bucket of bolts UAL 757-200s with only one jumpseat.
Read the FOM jumpseat reference guide. The CSR must bump a revenue passenger in order to accommodate a second United pilot jumpseater. This is an interim measure until the second jumpseat is installed in heavy maintenance (as req'd by the UPA). Yes...I know we are parking them before the heavy mx...hence the FOM stop gap.
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Old 10-07-2013, 10:13 PM
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Yep, and it was the cal part of the jnc that wanted nothing with negotiating a second jumpseat on the 737's..

I hope they are not trying to commute when a pilot senior to them is....
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Old 10-07-2013, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AxlF16
Read the FOM jumpseat reference guide. The CSR must bump a revenue passenger in order to accommodate a second United pilot jumpseater. This is an interim measure until the second jumpseat is installed in heavy maintenance (as req'd by the UPA). Yes...I know we are parking them before the heavy mx...hence the FOM stop gap.
Don't jump on me Axl, your guy started it with dissin' our 737s. Yes, I know about the 757 FOM reference and was very happy to see that in there (only for UAL pilots though). I would be curious to know why our JNC (if true) didn't want the same for the 737's, but I have to say I've sat in the second jumpseat of a 737 and it's not comfy, but beats walkin'.
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Old 10-08-2013, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyflyin
Don't jump on me Axl, your guy started it with dissin' our 737s. Yes, I know about the 757 FOM reference and was very happy to see that in there (only for UAL pilots though). I would be curious to know why our JNC (if true) didn't want the same for the 737's, but I have to say I've sat in the second jumpseat of a 737 and it's not comfy, but beats walkin'.
Not jumping on you - sorry for coming across that way. I know yo guys were just sparring a bit, but I thought it was a good opportuniy to highlight a valuable benefit for our commuters. I don't fly the 57 often, but when I do I find that a lot of us don't know about this FOM section.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it applies to LUAL & LCAL pilots. The requirement to bump revenue pax would make it tough to extend to non UAL pilots...it would be nice though.
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Old 10-08-2013, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyflyin
I know, or like that bucket of bolts UAL 757-200s with only one jumpseat.
The UA 757s have 2 jumpseats. One in the cockpit and one in the cabin. UAL 757s can always take 2 UAL jumpseaters, even if weight restricted.
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Old 10-08-2013, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyflyin
Don't jump on me Axl, your guy started it with dissin' our 737s.
Actually, they are now all "our" guppies.
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Old 10-08-2013, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Slats Extend
Yep, and it was the cal part of the jnc that wanted nothing with negotiating a second jumpseat on the 737's..

I hope they are not trying to commute when a pilot senior to them is....
I've got a message out to members on both teams to see if this is a fact or just another slam...
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