7 stages of grief
09-07-2013, 07:32 AM
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7 stages of grief
Ok, typically there are seven stages of grief following a loss and it takes time to make it through all seven successfully. Many pilots on both sides of the fence (including me) are coming to terms. We have all read the testimony and the decision, but that doesn't make it any easier when a pilot is looking at a major change of lifestyle. However, that's life. God knows that most of the ual pilots know this lesson all too well.
Here's my proposal to sunvox and company: be quiet for now, let everyone cope. As has been mentioned countless times, this is done and we all need to move on. Let everyone do it on their own time and if you feel compelled to buy the other side a beer, then just make sure you talk about cars, woman, guns, whatever and don't feel that the price of a beer is a ticket to preach.
And finally, whatever games either legacy mec attempts to play in the coming weeks (jump seat, fences, etc), let's all remember that as of three days ago we are one team and let's spend our energy building unity not pointing fingers.
Here's my proposal to sunvox and company: be quiet for now, let everyone cope. As has been mentioned countless times, this is done and we all need to move on. Let everyone do it on their own time and if you feel compelled to buy the other side a beer, then just make sure you talk about cars, woman, guns, whatever and don't feel that the price of a beer is a ticket to preach.
And finally, whatever games either legacy mec attempts to play in the coming weeks (jump seat, fences, etc), let's all remember that as of three days ago we are one team and let's spend our energy building unity not pointing fingers.
09-07-2013, 07:36 AM
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09-07-2013, 09:03 AM
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Ok, typically there are seven stages of grief following a loss and it takes time to make it through all seven successfully. Many pilots on both sides of the fence (including me) are coming to terms. We have all read the testimony and the decision, but that doesn't make it any easier when a pilot is looking at a major change of lifestyle. However, that's life. God knows that most of the ual pilots know this lesson all too well.
Here's my proposal to sunvox and company: be quiet for now, let everyone cope. As has been mentioned countless times, this is done and we all need to move on. Let everyone do it on their own time and if you feel compelled to buy the other side a beer, then just make sure you talk about cars, woman, guns, whatever and don't feel that the price of a beer is a ticket to preach.
And finally, whatever games either legacy mec attempts to play in the coming weeks (jump seat, fences, etc), let's all remember that as of three days ago we are one team and let's spend our energy building unity not pointing fingers.
Here's my proposal to sunvox and company: be quiet for now, let everyone cope. As has been mentioned countless times, this is done and we all need to move on. Let everyone do it on their own time and if you feel compelled to buy the other side a beer, then just make sure you talk about cars, woman, guns, whatever and don't feel that the price of a beer is a ticket to preach.
And finally, whatever games either legacy mec attempts to play in the coming weeks (jump seat, fences, etc), let's all remember that as of three days ago we are one team and let's spend our energy building unity not pointing fingers.
09-07-2013, 10:06 AM
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09-07-2013, 05:56 PM
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Ok, typically there are seven stages of grief following a loss and it takes time to make it through all seven successfully. Many pilots on both sides of the fence (including me) are coming to terms. We have all read the testimony and the decision, but that doesn't make it any easier when a pilot is looking at a major change of lifestyle. However, that's life. God knows that most of the ual pilots know this lesson all too well.
Here's my proposal to sunvox and company: be quiet for now, let everyone cope. As has been mentioned countless times, this is done and we all need to move on. Let everyone do it on their own time and if you feel compelled to buy the other side a beer, then just make sure you talk about cars, woman, guns, whatever and don't feel that the price of a beer is a ticket to preach.
And finally, whatever games either legacy mec attempts to play in the coming weeks (jump seat, fences, etc), let's all remember that as of three days ago we are one team and let's spend our energy building unity not pointing fingers.
Here's my proposal to sunvox and company: be quiet for now, let everyone cope. As has been mentioned countless times, this is done and we all need to move on. Let everyone do it on their own time and if you feel compelled to buy the other side a beer, then just make sure you talk about cars, woman, guns, whatever and don't feel that the price of a beer is a ticket to preach.
And finally, whatever games either legacy mec attempts to play in the coming weeks (jump seat, fences, etc), let's all remember that as of three days ago we are one team and let's spend our energy building unity not pointing fingers.
09-09-2013, 05:15 PM
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09-09-2013, 09:26 PM
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Actually, 5 stages
From Wikipedia:
The Kübler-Ross model, commonly referred to as the "five stages of grief", is a hypothesis introduced by Elisabeth Kübler-Ross[1] and says that when a person is faced with the reality of impending death or other extreme, awful fate, he or she will experience a series of emotional stages: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. This hypothesis was introduced in Kübler-Ross' 1969 book On Death and Dying, which was inspired by her work with terminally ill patients.
Using poetic license to edit for the airline profession:
The Legacy Consolidation model, commonly referred to as the "five stages of grief," is a hypothesis introduced by (insert your MEC here) and says that when a pilot is faced with the reality of impending Merger or other extreme, awful fate (such as a proposed SLI) they will experience a series of emotional stages:
1. Denial of applicability of ALPA Policy or precedent,
2. Anger at the Negotiating Committees, ALPA National, and the Other Carriers' MEC,
3. Collective Bargaining,
4. Economic and Emotional Depression, and
5. Acceptance and Embarrassment, when frivolous Lawsuits are filed.
This hypothesis was introduced in George Hopkins' books Flying the Line and Flying the Line II, which was inspired by ALPA's work with pilots who lived in Airport Terminals while on reserve, giving rise to the phenomenon popularly called "terminal illness."
The Kübler-Ross model, commonly referred to as the "five stages of grief", is a hypothesis introduced by Elisabeth Kübler-Ross[1] and says that when a person is faced with the reality of impending death or other extreme, awful fate, he or she will experience a series of emotional stages: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. This hypothesis was introduced in Kübler-Ross' 1969 book On Death and Dying, which was inspired by her work with terminally ill patients.
Using poetic license to edit for the airline profession:
The Legacy Consolidation model, commonly referred to as the "five stages of grief," is a hypothesis introduced by (insert your MEC here) and says that when a pilot is faced with the reality of impending Merger or other extreme, awful fate (such as a proposed SLI) they will experience a series of emotional stages:
1. Denial of applicability of ALPA Policy or precedent,
2. Anger at the Negotiating Committees, ALPA National, and the Other Carriers' MEC,
3. Collective Bargaining,
4. Economic and Emotional Depression, and
5. Acceptance and Embarrassment, when frivolous Lawsuits are filed.
This hypothesis was introduced in George Hopkins' books Flying the Line and Flying the Line II, which was inspired by ALPA's work with pilots who lived in Airport Terminals while on reserve, giving rise to the phenomenon popularly called "terminal illness."
09-10-2013, 10:23 AM
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From Wikipedia:
The Kübler-Ross model, commonly referred to as the "five stages of grief", is a hypothesis introduced by Elisabeth Kübler-Ross[1] and says that when a person is faced with the reality of impending death or other extreme, awful fate, he or she will experience a series of emotional stages: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. This hypothesis was introduced in Kübler-Ross' 1969 book On Death and Dying, which was inspired by her work with terminally ill patients.
Using poetic license to edit for the airline profession:
The Legacy Consolidation model, commonly referred to as the "five stages of grief," is a hypothesis introduced by (insert your MEC here) and says that when a pilot is faced with the reality of impending Merger or other extreme, awful fate (such as a proposed SLI) they will experience a series of emotional stages:
1. Denial of applicability of ALPA Policy or precedent,
2. Anger at the Negotiating Committees, ALPA National, and the Other Carriers' MEC,
3. Collective Bargaining,
4. Economic and Emotional Depression, and
5. Acceptance and Embarrassment, when frivolous Lawsuits are filed.
This hypothesis was introduced in George Hopkins' books Flying the Line and Flying the Line II, which was inspired by ALPA's work with pilots who lived in Airport Terminals while on reserve, giving rise to the phenomenon popularly called "terminal illness."
The Kübler-Ross model, commonly referred to as the "five stages of grief", is a hypothesis introduced by Elisabeth Kübler-Ross[1] and says that when a person is faced with the reality of impending death or other extreme, awful fate, he or she will experience a series of emotional stages: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. This hypothesis was introduced in Kübler-Ross' 1969 book On Death and Dying, which was inspired by her work with terminally ill patients.
Using poetic license to edit for the airline profession:
The Legacy Consolidation model, commonly referred to as the "five stages of grief," is a hypothesis introduced by (insert your MEC here) and says that when a pilot is faced with the reality of impending Merger or other extreme, awful fate (such as a proposed SLI) they will experience a series of emotional stages:
1. Denial of applicability of ALPA Policy or precedent,
2. Anger at the Negotiating Committees, ALPA National, and the Other Carriers' MEC,
3. Collective Bargaining,
4. Economic and Emotional Depression, and
5. Acceptance and Embarrassment, when frivolous Lawsuits are filed.
This hypothesis was introduced in George Hopkins' books Flying the Line and Flying the Line II, which was inspired by ALPA's work with pilots who lived in Airport Terminals while on reserve, giving rise to the phenomenon popularly called "terminal illness."
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