Thank you Mr. Katz!
09-04-2013, 09:45 AM
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What has happened since 2010 has been a very one sided march up the seniority list at LCAL and a downward push on the LUAL side. There have been 3 years of upgrades and bids etc. for folks that wouldn't have had a prayer of being able to hold that seat had the list been done ALA DAL right at the beginning of the merger. Perhaps the other perspective would be that the LCAL folks have enjoyed 3 years of a windfall and the playing field just got leveled. If you truly thought 2013 was going to be the SLI snapshot date, you absolutely ignored merger history and were setting yourself up for a MAJOR disappointment. I would have bet my house on the 2010 snapshot because thats the way it always has, will, and should be done.
09-04-2013, 11:05 AM
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09-04-2013, 11:05 AM
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System bid 14-02 has a CAL 2007 hire holding CA and a 2006 hire holding 756 CA.
Those '97 and '98 UAL pilots went to bed last night as junior FOs with 1500 furloughed pilots needing to be recalled to move them back up. They woke up this morning able to hold the left seat. If they can't be happy with their good fortune and windfall at this turn of events after a long and dark period at UAL then there's nothing to say.
Those '97 and '98 UAL pilots went to bed last night as junior FOs with 1500 furloughed pilots needing to be recalled to move them back up. They woke up this morning able to hold the left seat. If they can't be happy with their good fortune and windfall at this turn of events after a long and dark period at UAL then there's nothing to say.
Those 05-07 capts better get real comfortable with reserve rules.
09-04-2013, 11:10 AM
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System bid 14-02 has a CAL 2007 hire holding CA and a 2006 hire holding 756 CA.
Those '97 and '98 UAL pilots went to bed last night as junior FOs with 1500 furloughed pilots needing to be recalled to move them back up. They woke up this morning able to hold the left seat. If they can't be happy with their good fortune and windfall at this turn of events after a long and dark period at UAL then there's nothing to say.
Those '97 and '98 UAL pilots went to bed last night as junior FOs with 1500 furloughed pilots needing to be recalled to move them back up. They woke up this morning able to hold the left seat. If they can't be happy with their good fortune and windfall at this turn of events after a long and dark period at UAL then there's nothing to say.
**I'm not trying to instigate another argument, I'm simply illustrating why that particular gripe won't carry much wait on the UAL side. Let's just let it go.**
09-04-2013, 11:15 AM
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To be completely correct, there are only two (2) senior management people left that are CAL. One is Smisek, and the other Compton. The one area where UAL has improved tremendously is in the balance sheet. The balance sheet is stronger than United has had in over a decade. This is because of Compton. He is a very bright guy.
Talking to friend of mine from Wall Street, it is hardly amateur hour in Chicago. Not to mention if you dont want to be here, USAir is hiring. you could do ISL all over again.
Talking to friend of mine from Wall Street, it is hardly amateur hour in Chicago. Not to mention if you dont want to be here, USAir is hiring. you could do ISL all over again.
09-04-2013, 11:19 AM
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Here's my take again, before I abandon the Internet for a while for a nice hot, humid bike ride:
Quit gloating and quit crying. Don't worry about it. Don't take it personally - you have NO control over any of this, except....your attitude.
The merger sucks bad enough of on its own accord. Don't make it worse by acting like a douche or a *****.
Have a nice day!
Quit gloating and quit crying. Don't worry about it. Don't take it personally - you have NO control over any of this, except....your attitude.
The merger sucks bad enough of on its own accord. Don't make it worse by acting like a douche or a *****.
Have a nice day!
09-04-2013, 11:34 AM
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Compton is in Investor Relations... The CFO since mid 2012 is a UAL guy named John Rainey. Prior to Rainey the CFO was Zane Rowe, a CAL guy. I would give the CFO the credit for the strength of the balance sheet...the IR guy certainly deserves credit for other things though -- like keeping Smisek from getting lynched by the shareholders.
09-04-2013, 11:47 AM
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