LAX Pilot

The only reason guppy Captain is so junior in the 1st place and that Airbus FO hasn't had a chance to bid off is because only 40% of the airlines pilots have had access to any meaningful bids.

The SLI solves that problem. If the UAL side had had all those bids, it would have been the other way around.

Its totally fair to now let UAL pilots actually bid to fly on routes that they built and have flown for years.

Yes, lots of pilots currently hold guppy Captain out of seniority, but that is going to be fixed through the natural bidding process.

SOTeric

And how much longer are you going whine?

LAX Pilot

And no guppy FOs could hold Captain on the guppy at CAL??

I just checked and the top 90 FO's on the guppy in IAH can ALL HOLD CAPTAIN in IAH. So why should an Airbus FO not be allowed to hold it as well. This also includes the last 3 years of one-sided bidding.

The ISL may not be perfect, but it just closed a major loophole with the merger and seniority levels will return to what they should be.

Also, our MEC just put a proposal together. We included active with furlough. So did the CAL proposal. Actually the CAL proposal stapled 3,000 UAL pilots below the most junior CAL furluoghee. The UAL proposal was FAR KINDER in comparison.

sovt

"If you are a 2005-2008 LCAL hire, I hate to break this to you but you've had a song of a career up until now. You missed the fun of 9/11, Ch 11, parking airplanes, major length furloughs, etc. etc. You're not going to find much sympathy from the rest of us.... on either side of the fence."

I would propose that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

In my case, my career, three furloughs, two bankruptcies, pension plan terminated (not frozen), multiple displacements, five years of "B" scale, got absolutely zero credit for my sixteen years of longitivity in a merger.....

And yes 911

Started over again at 51 in 2005 with CAL. My case may be extreme but I know of more than a few who were in similar circumstances when CAL picked them up.

Like many here I thought our SLI proposal was bizarre and not likely to fly. My beef is not with the UAL folks but with ALPA's never ending changes to the merger policy and I've been around long enough to see a few.

So the next time you choose to post some inaccurate and condescending BS you might want to give it some thought first.

gettinbumped

Fair enough. I should have put if differently, as my point is that your career AT LCAL has been absolutely RIDICULOUSLY good compared to the rest of the industry. What happened before your CAL career I wasnt speculating on. 6 year 767 Captains in 2012? Name another major that can say that post 2001. It's been a really good 3 years for the LCAL pilot group. Not so for us at the other side of the house. It's about to go back to a much more normal legacy career, but for a 2005-2008 hire to claim the SLI was unfair to them is ludicrous in my opinion. Especially since there is a no-flush clause.

As far as my condescending attitude... Perhaps you might go read what his original comment was and you will see why the response was written in that tone. He deserved it.

500RVR

Katz is doing just fine. The CAL MEC paid him 3 million, total merger expenses to the CAL MEC over 6 Million.

untied

I'm sure he is.

I'm also sure he'll be called on to help in the American merger. The guy is just awful and ALWAYS loses, but he has EXPERIENCE.....so he continues to find work.

I was pretty happy when the CAL side ended up with him. It got much better when he put out that ridiculous proposal to staple nearly 3000 pilots and totally ignore ALPA merger policy AGAIN!

It's like a bad CEO...they always seem to find another sucker to give them a chance.

Flytolive

You and your friend should try listening in to an earnings call to see how little the rest of the street thinks of the job coworkers Jeffrey, Jim and their crack team are doing. You might also want to review the senior UAL management ranks.

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CAL 73

If you were robbed of 75k/year for the next 10 years you would feel the same way. guess then i would be telling you to quiet down and accept it le bus

CAL 73

Furloughs should have never been an issue since we all take that risk when we move to a major. Only reason they were included is to bump all active UAL pilots higher on the list. Bottom active 320 fo at 95% of L UAL should be 95% of new UAL...even with the 2010 snapshot all you UAL guys love to bring up. I firmly agree thats the list that should be used.