Probe

I guess another permutation would be to accept recall, and get the same seat, but recall to another base.
Every furloughed UAL pilot was offered a new hire job at lCAL. The ones that declined - that was their choice.

I am not sure the recalls will be that messy. The big 756 bump is another matter. Recalling furloughees and bumping 800 pilots simultaneously. LMAO. Only at UAL.

I only see this whole thing going smoothly if the company just happens to get lucky. There is no way they are smart enough to get it right. Not in a million years.

emrickman

Current lUAL pilots on the CAL side are recalled in place at ISL. They will all be able to bid anywhere on the system wide Vacancy bid that will follow ISL.

For UAL furloughees awaiting recall that have not gone to CAL, that should follow in seniority order by the amount of unfilled vacancies following the post SLI vacancy bid. Any leftover class slots can be filled from the new hire pool. Further recalls have to wait on unfilled vacancies and class slots.

As the Ual recalls have many years they can bypass, I expect some will continue to bypass based upon their current job and where they fall on the SLI list...

Also remember, all of these guys getting offered a job on the CAL side has no effect on the real recall process other than those that accepted the job are already on property for their "recall in place". Those off property just have to wait out the normal UAL vacancy bids and unfilled spots. I expect a huge amount of unfilled vacancies off the post SLI bid.

Admiral

PS just FYI on the 14-02a bid on the Cal side IAHFO 737 was more senior than 757/67 FO. Unfilled 757/67 spots.

SEDPA

All have been offered employment at UCH ... United Airlines has only offered jobs to about 350ish or so of the 1437 ... Your old United Airlines, and UAL Corp, are DEAD, DONE, GONE. So is my legacy airline and parent. Best path forward is together as UCH.

LAX Pilot

United Airlines is dead? That's funny because I keep going to work at United and they keep paying me. When The ISL is signed, those UAL pilots are recalled in place and will bid monthly flying and vacancies with their new seniority number.

SoCalGuy

As the Pilot Group(s) inch closer to the "post" SLI phase (ASSuming that the ISL is about to be handed down per the MEC Comm, and barring any legal intervention pertaining to the recent TRO attempt), it shouldn't be much of a surprise with the above results on 14-02A.

With the B756 group becoming a "Shrinking Fleet" under current/future plans (L-UA 757's), most 'junior' pilots wanting some type of direction post SLI wouldn't want to bid onto such a fleet with those future plans by choice. In contrast, the B737 currently being a "stable fleet" for the immediate future, it's not surprising one bit that IAH filtered as such.

The old adage, being "junior" on a shrinking fleet is NO BUENO on all sorts of levels, especially the QOL.....Avoid it like the plague.

APC225

We were advised by the arbitration panel today that they will not be completed with the Integrated Seniority List (ISL) this week and are instead anticipating their award on Tuesday, Sept. 3. This was not unanticipated, as the original timeline, and the current one, are only estimates. Plans for a special meeting of the CAL MEC remain in place, and the date will be adjusted as necessary to accommodate the issuance of the award.

As for today’s hearing regarding a group of L-UAL pilots’ request for a temporary restraining order (TRO) against the release of the ISL that was filed in U.S. District Court, the judge stated that the request did not meet any of the criteria for granting relief and the request for a TRO was denied in its entirety. Thus, the issuance of the award and list will not be delayed as a result of the request.

CAL MEC Chairman

SEDPA

The United Airlines of UAL Corp. is no longer ... you work for and are paid by the United Airlines subsidiary of UCH ... let it go; your health will thank you, and we will appreciate your posts that much more.

As for "U-Hires", I totally agree ... looking forward to next week when we all find out where our "rightful" seniority places us on one list.

LAX Pilot

You are right. We changed the name to UCH after we bought Continental...

Probe

Emrickman.

I disagree. I have two jobs at UCH. I have bypassed recall. ALPA and the company were explicit in that we were not recalled.

I believe recall in place will be an option, but we all have recall rights under the UPA.

El Gwopo

It's funny how pilots believe (on both sides) that they bought the other side. It's like you personally pulled out your wallet. The millionaires who ACTUALLY make those decisions must laugh and laugh at us. Pilots really believe they pull the strings in all this...funny.