Bid 14-02 Grievance DFR/Collusion Lawsuit
#21
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Stop saying you furloughed to right size airline for merger, will you wake the f. up people. You keep giving away scope, including the last TA.
#22
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Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: 737 CA
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You guys keep saying that, but the fact that you got furloughed was not a merger, you give up on scope and outsourced to regional.
Stop saying you furloughed to right size airline for merger, will you wake the f. up people. You keep giving away scope, including the last TA.
Stop saying you furloughed to right size airline for merger, will you wake the f. up people. You keep giving away scope, including the last TA.
#23
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The last vote for TA was overwhelmingly pushed by L-UAL pilots due to increase in pay, which was well below CAL and even other low cost carries, with gross disregard to scope. Majority of CAL junior pilots voted NO, as they had no incentives. Work rules mean nothing if you get furlough for 13 years due to outsourcing, excuse me "right sizing for merger". :-)
Still I can't remember even one CAL pilot that was for the merger, yet UAL pilots kept asking, when it'll happen since you loved Tilton so much.
#24
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I can see you don't understand the issues as "Motch" pointed out to you but that's ok. You'll get the hint when SLI is published. One little tidbit hourly pay rate is not the total compension package - give "Motch" or Ben Sally a call they can straighten it out for you.
P.S. vote not about pay about pushing for SLI - you're welcome.
P.S. vote not about pay about pushing for SLI - you're welcome.
#25
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: EWR B737FO
Posts: 225
Why do we keep re-arguing over chicken shxt all over again! Who needed the merger, ISL presentations, SCOPE, JCBA....like a dog chasing its tail! You parked 737s and furloughed and so did we, about 67....300s and 500s during the same period. Our scope clause, prevented even more. We had our good and bad times, and so did L-UA But seriously, who gives a shxt now! Its done, so where do we go from here? Keep fighting, seeking the demise of each other, like past and current ongoing merger pilot groups. The type of leadership and maturity as a whole to move the combined pilot groups forward is not going to totally come from our union reps or ALPA national, it will come from guys, like us, on the line daily who make a conscious effort to be one group going forward. I am ready for the ISL and one group, as i suspect many on this forum and have no problems at all " throwing gear", for any truly UNITED pilot sitting in the left seat.
#26
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#27
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Why do we keep re-arguing over chicken shxt all over again! Who needed the merger, ISL presentations, SCOPE, JCBA....like a dog chasing its tail! You parked 737s and furloughed and so did we, about 67....300s and 500s during the same period. Our scope clause, prevented even more. We had our good and bad times, and so did L-UA But seriously, who gives a shxt now! Its done, so where do we go from here? Keep fighting, seeking the demise of each other, like past and current ongoing merger pilot groups. The type of leadership and maturity as a whole to move the combined pilot groups forward is not going to totally come from our union reps or ALPA national, it will come from guys, like us, on the line daily who make a conscious effort to be one group going forward. I am ready for the ISL and one group, as i suspect many on this forum and have no problems at all " throwing gear", for any truly UNITED pilot sitting in the left seat.
#28
You guys keep saying that, but the fact that you got furloughed was not a merger, you give up on scope and outsourced to regional.
Stop saying you furloughed to right size airline for merger, will you wake the f. up people. You keep giving away scope, including the last TA.
Stop saying you furloughed to right size airline for merger, will you wake the f. up people. You keep giving away scope, including the last TA.
Tell us again how long you have been at the new United?
Think the "Blue juice" has screwed with your head...
#29
Don't panic, you'll be all right. You should be grateful we like to help our little ALPA brothers at CAL. Look at the growth we gave you post merger. Had the merger not happened, you would likely still be furloughing and parking airplanes. You guys should be thankful for the windfall. Not ankle biting. Why isn't Ben Salley and "Motch" on here protecting you guys.
As a side note - the UAL side has the popular vote and LEC votes. What do you think will happen post SLI and election of the first combined MEC? You think they'll try to fix some of these things?
As a side note - the UAL side has the popular vote and LEC votes. What do you think will happen post SLI and election of the first combined MEC? You think they'll try to fix some of these things?
Nice job Big Bro....You guys are smart, and yes I thank you everyday.
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