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Old 08-18-2013, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmak2
I can totally understand the uncertainty about SLI and not choosing to bid over to the airplane, but I guess what I'm wondering is was there any information posted anywhere explaining the huge vacancies for 756 FOs? It doesn't seem proportionate to the rest of the bid. The reasons given in the bid bulletin were retirements and unfilled vacancies from previous bids, but it sure seems like they heavily loaded the 756
FAR 117 becomes effective on 4 Jan. There's an increase in augmented crews that is driven by this I believe.
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:02 PM
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I can totally understand the uncertainty about SLI and not choosing to bid over to the airplane, but I guess what I'm wondering is was there any information posted anywhere explaining the huge vacancies for 756 FOs? It doesn't seem proportionate to the rest of the bid. The reasons given in the bid bulletin were retirements and unfilled vacancies from previous bids, but it sure seems like they heavily loaded the 756
CAL 756 almost exclusively fly international plus new FAR changes drive the vacancies. Most augmented crews are in EWR. Your last sentence is correct
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Old 08-18-2013, 09:09 PM
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Well my smart answer is 02-2014 isn't this year, it's next year. I really didn't even think about when it was effective, it's just normally a year out. But the real point is that the 757 schedules are basically the same as the 737 schedules, but the 737 has more choices with scheduling, at basically the same pay. And no seat lock with the ISL over hanging. And the reason there are so many seats is because on the last bid, that had a lot of seats, none of them got filled and they rolled over to this bid plus whatever new seats were added.
Becker, I don't believe the CAL 757 and 737 are the same especially in EWR ( largest 757 base). Some domestic...but the type of flying and schedules are international, all nighters, one leg and sometimes augmented....pretty different overall.
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Old 08-19-2013, 04:11 PM
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CAL 756 almost exclusively fly international plus new FAR changes drive the vacancies. Most augmented crews are in EWR. Your last sentence is correct
They already knew about FAR 117 when 14-02 was originally published. Wouldn't the increased requirements have already been factored in?
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Old 08-19-2013, 05:26 PM
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They already knew about FAR 117 when 14-02 was originally published. Wouldn't the increased requirements have already been factored in?
Yes, FAR changes were one big factor butCAL has historically been chronically understaffed, in all fleets except the 777. System bid looks a year out, so the numbers, in a perfect world means everyone in their seats by Feb 2014. That never happens. 13-08 is a current example. Just the shear numbers of the 14-02, understaffing leading into the summer, retirements, JCBA, Upcoming FAR changes, delayed hiring, lack of sims and instructors and domino effect of 787 battery parking, made it less than zero chance that the CAL side alone could fill all those FO vacancies on the 737 and 756. It was not executable and I think most CAL guys would tell you that.
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What was the hire date of the junior guy from CAL that got the Guppy bid at SFO?
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:38 PM
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What was the hire date of the junior guy from CAL that got the Guppy bid at SFO?
UAL Furloughed transplant, hired CAL March 2013 equivalent seniority of February 2012. DOH means nothing these days, you have to go by equivalent seniority. Hope this helps.
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UAL Furloughed transplant, hired CAL March 2013 equivalent seniority of February 2012. DOH means nothing these days, you have to go by equivalent seniority. Hope this helps.
Actually it does. If I know how junior the SFO Captain bid went I know whether or not he is junior to me now since I don't have the names.

But I just got the answer....7/12/05. Junior to me.
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