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Old 08-23-2013, 06:38 PM
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The CAL MC proposal is completely reasonable and likely to be considered by the arbitrators.....said no one ever.
Not true, it was said by the CAL MC
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Old 08-23-2013, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyflyin
Not true, it was said by the CAL MC
Did they drug test the CAL MC? I want some of whatever they were taking when they made that list.

Funny twist would be the arbitrators to say they are using the CAL methodology and going 1 for 1.....but then starting at the bottom of both lists going up and stapling those 3,000 UAL pilots to the top instead of the bottom.
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
Did they drug test the CAL MC? I want some of whatever they were taking when they made that list.

Funny twist would be the arbitrators to say they are using the CAL methodology and going 1 for 1.....but then starting at the bottom of both lists going up and stapling those 3,000 UAL pilots to the top instead of the bottom.
Say what you will of the CAL MC but these guys are not dumb. 2 of them (Brusha and Butcher) have been pilot neutrals and are pretty heavily involved in industry merger activity. The other two are just smart guys. I am not saying that the CAL method will be used, I have no idea and don't care to guess, but the plan may not have been to use the method. Just streanthen our arguments and get as much weight behind our considerations as possible. Regardless how it comes out I feel we put our best and brightest forward. They definitely are better than anyone on these boards, me included.
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LAX Pilot
Did they drug test the CAL MC? I want some of whatever they were taking when they made that list.

Funny twist would be the arbitrators to say they are using the CAL methodology and going 1 for 1.....but then starting at the bottom of both lists going up and stapling those 3,000 UAL pilots to the top instead of the bottom.
HA HA. What a whacky turn of events that would be! I mean wow, that's funny. Only a few more days till LAX goes full lock down in the basement awaiting SLI results. I'm sure he's ensured there will be an overly adequate supply of hot pockets and JOLT cola.
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sleeves
Say what you will of the CAL MC but these guys are not dumb. 2 of them (Brusha and Butcher) have been pilot neutrals and are pretty heavily involved in industry merger activity. The other two are just smart guys. I am not saying that the CAL method will be used, I have no idea and don't care to guess, but the plan may not have been to use the method. Just streanthen our arguments and get as much weight behind our considerations as possible. Regardless how it comes out I feel we put our best and brightest forward. They definitely are better than anyone on these boards, me included.
I'm not so sure I would use the words best and brightest in conjunction with the list your side proposed.
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:44 PM
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I'm not so sure I would use the words best and brightest in conjunction with the list your side proposed.
I guess we will find out in a week or so? Like I said, regardless the outcome, I am happy with our MC.
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:50 PM
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I guess we will find out in a week or so? Like I said, regardless the outcome, I am happy with our MC.
Pretty sad statement considering how far off the reservation your list was. Now your side preaches unity after the award. Too bad you can't see the disconnect.
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Old 08-23-2013, 08:04 PM
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I'm not so sure I would use the words best and brightest in conjunction with the list your side proposed.
No ----- they were the BEST and BRIGHTEST from CAL.
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Old 08-23-2013, 08:10 PM
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Pretty sad statement considering how far off the reservation your list was. Now your side preaches unity after the award. Too bad you can't see the disconnect.
Well, that is the problem, the definition of fair. You think your list is fair, we think ours is. We agreed to hire 3 guys and use there definition. Getting all bent out of shape for years over a proposal is unhealthy. But hey, you may end up senior to me, so have at it.

As far as the unity thing goes, I am up for what ever you think will help us out the most in the future. If you think infighting and disunity will help your family (wife, kids, etc) the most in the future lets do that.
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Old 08-23-2013, 08:10 PM
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Except from the passengers, especially the business travelers who pay corporate and high walk up fares. But then we're not in the business of carrying passengers, oh wait....
Cool...so one must assume you're well-versed in the attributes of being a corporate traveler are you? Who were you a premier for? We're dying to know.

As a 4 year Gold Medallion with Delta, I can assure you that flying CAL isn't at the forefront of the majority of business travelers whilst booking travel accommodations. Did CAL have a respectable and reliable product? You bet...I can assure you that UAL/AMR/DAL are the leaders in catering to the business traveler, without exception. Well, at least they were.

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