New s-UA 737 Base to Open in November.
#81
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C'mon Lee, you are usually better than propagating Krazy Kravits line. Jay was down in Panama at the request of the Panamanian CAA (their FAA) and COPA to help develop a version of ASAP for their pilots. CAL (and ALPA) has had a long history with COPA, and ALPA National wanted Jay to go because of that long standing relationship.
#82
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#83
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Position: 756 Left Side
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I do know that I was not a fan of Capt. Abbott.
Didn't seem like a Leader to me. Just my opinion.
What I want (and am hoping for) is Leadership. Lead by example. Do what is right, not what is easy.
Do what sustains us in the long run.. even if it is tough in the short run.
Have Vision.
Again, hopefully in 6 weeks we can move forward together.. and try and keep this train on the tracks. I think that IF we can work together and IF we have management that wants to run an Airline, not a "Holding Company".. than maybe, just maybe, we can kick ass and take names~
Anyhooters..
Pool time~
Motch
#84
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Joined APC: May 2011
Position: A320 Captain
Posts: 479
Please use a much narrower brush in describing the 7800+ of us and please don't speak so inclusively for anyone else. It's possible that we all don't agree with you (both/either/same person).
#85
Once again, this was never said or implied.
#86
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Great point. This could be a new start and a mutually beneficial resolution for the two pilot groups could start us towards unity. I don't want to think of what they could do that would make the division greater. LUAL won the profit sharing debacle so their union will be getting a check to distribute or leverage as they see fit. Those discussions are underway.
APC225, the first post is what I responded to and your explanation posts do what? Sorry, I don't see it but will let it go. Again, that is UAL pilot money and any distribution will be decided by the UAL MEC and the UAL pilots.
Last edited by Tester; 07-16-2013 at 11:32 AM.
#87
Yes, you are right, Tester. LUAL won the profit sharing grievance so the UAL MEC and the UAL pilots will be getting a check to distribute or leverage as the UAL MEC and UAL pilots see fit.
Last edited by APC225; 07-16-2013 at 12:16 PM.
#88
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Position: 757/767 FO
Posts: 105
"You guys did read all the SLI transcripts on how CAL had airplanes on order years before the merger - well these aircraft are part of that order."
Did you read the SEC.gov site for the 10K and 10Qs for 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 where it states that CAL had no financing for their aircraft after 3 737 deliveries past summer 2010 and that the debt restructuring that took place in 2005-2006 was placed on Balloon Notes/Bullet Loans amounting to 6 billion dollars with 15% and 18% (33%) coming due in 2010 and 2011 respectively(2-2.4 billion). Boeing does not give away airplanes for free, you have to pay for them thus the merger with United. And that is when United cancelled their Request For Proposal for a Narrow Body aircraft order for the end of 2010 according to the 10Q earnings call for 1Q, and 2Q 2010 from United's CFO Kathryn Mikells.
UAL Corporation Q1 2010 Earnings Call Transcript - Seeking Alpha
UAL Corporation Q2 2010 Earnings Call Transcript - Seeking Alpha
Did you read the SEC.gov site for the 10K and 10Qs for 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 where it states that CAL had no financing for their aircraft after 3 737 deliveries past summer 2010 and that the debt restructuring that took place in 2005-2006 was placed on Balloon Notes/Bullet Loans amounting to 6 billion dollars with 15% and 18% (33%) coming due in 2010 and 2011 respectively(2-2.4 billion). Boeing does not give away airplanes for free, you have to pay for them thus the merger with United. And that is when United cancelled their Request For Proposal for a Narrow Body aircraft order for the end of 2010 according to the 10Q earnings call for 1Q, and 2Q 2010 from United's CFO Kathryn Mikells.
UAL Corporation Q1 2010 Earnings Call Transcript - Seeking Alpha
UAL Corporation Q2 2010 Earnings Call Transcript - Seeking Alpha
#90
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I didn't say all UAL pilots. If you think the typical UAL pilot is in lock step with you and the CAL MEC, you are very wrong.
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