crazy pills

More like ORD-GEG capable....

LAX Pilot

What's the difference between a 78 seat airplane and a 70 seat airplane? Just because one has a jet and the other doesn't its still jobs. Also, management is not going to put a 737 or Airbus on a route that continuously can only fill 50-70 seats. So for academic and practical purposes that's a big hole to fill.

At least we now forced the company to add narrowbody aircraft to mainline tied to block hour flying at express, something that didn't exist at CAL prior.

Additionally, UAL is a much larger airline in terms of scope of flying, etc so our feed is much larger with more than double the international ASMs. So CAL being a smaller primarily domestic airline doesn't need as much feed except at two hubs, IAH and EWR. UAL flew international from LAX, SFO, ORD, IAD, JFK, SEA, and DEN so by nature needed more feed to make that happen.

picaro

Not gonna adresses the "mostly domestic" comment. Well, yes I will. I think that CAL flew to almost twice as many cities in Europe than UAL did in 2010. Yes I know with 757's.

However, your whole post can sum up our differences. Yes, you had more hubs, but shouldn't we be flying those route as well? Not having them farmed out to someone else?

LAX Pilot

I noticed you picked a metric that favored you. The overall picture is that UALs ASMs were twice as much. PERIOD.

picaro

While I don't know for sure, but you are probably right. But just because your ASM's are higher does that equal more jobs? Because that is what matters right? 3 747's crossing's vs 6 757's crossing. Probably more ASM's on the 74 outfit.

The guy flying for the 757 outfit has more career advancement opportunities, more progression to Captain, equal or better schedules. All the while only making slightly less than the 747 outfit. Sorry couldn't resist.

cadetdrivr

Ummmm.....sure....but can you share a 757 schedule that works 9 days a month. The CAL 757s typically do 11 to 16 hour legs, right?

I'm guessing this is the real reason why nearly every single 777/747 FO at UAL and CAL can hold narrowbody CA but doesn't. It's all about quality of life not at work.

LAX Pilot

So flying 90 hours a month in a 737 doing redeyes, etc is ok, but flying 78 hours where you get to sleep for 6 hours on the flight is somehow hazardous to your health?

Ya right.....

You know what I'm going to love, all the L-CAL pilots bidding WB slots after SLI. I"ll bet someone tracks the bidding patterns. Making these ridiculous arguments and then after SLI they'll all jump into those seats.

Well if WB was such a terrible thing, why all the fuss when UAL proposed a 747 fence, and then a 787 fence proposed by CAL that included airplanes they didn't even order.

AxlF16

Well whoop de f'n do...good for you

You DO realize that this isn't all about you right? You DO realize that your experience on the guppy isn't the norm right? You sure picked the wrong job if you're so worried about your health. Lemme guess...you never fly above 29000', you wear a tinfoil hat, and you wear a tinfoil jock strap to protect your raisins from the radar 'back lobe'

In case you didn't realize it -- it's not the guppy that allows you to chose your QOL, it's your SENIORITY.

APC225

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AxlF16

God must not live near you.