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Old 04-15-2015, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by griego
Do you mean they added more to your class than they had expected?
Or more to every class?
Or...?

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More to every class is what it sounded like.
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Old 04-15-2015, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SUX4U
You think even for 756 guys to get to the said bases of SFO/LAX/ORD? I was nearly 700 numbers away from LAX on the vacancy bid that just closed. I would be shocked to see LAX within a year personally.
Sorry, I should have specified that it mostly applies to the 737 and 320.

For the 757/767, it's difficult to guess but I don't think it's good. The 76T is a dying fleet and the 756 will probably be the next to be retired. If the company sticks with their fleet plan of retiring 13 76Ts (9% of the 757/767 fleet) this year, there should be displacements off of the aircraft.
I didn't see a lot of 756/76T FOs from bases other than EWR and DCA fill vacancies on this bid so I don't expect to see a lot of vacancies in other bases on the next bid.

I also looked at January's Crew Resources Outlook. On the grid, it showed 756/76T FOs in ORD and SFO as being properly staffed and LAX being slightly understaffed.

The best case for you to move would be for the company to decide to keep the 13 76Ts and I don't know the likelihood of that.
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Old 04-15-2015, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy
Sorry, I should have specified that it mostly applies to the 737 and 320.

For the 757/767, it's difficult to guess but I don't think it's good. The 76T is a dying fleet and the 756 will probably be the next to be retired. If the company sticks with their fleet plan of retiring 13 76Ts (9% of the 757/767 fleet) this year, there should be displacements off of the aircraft.
I didn't see a lot of 756/76T FOs from bases other than EWR and DCA fill vacancies on this bid so I don't expect to see a lot of vacancies in other bases on the next bid.

I also looked at January's Crew Resources Outlook. On the grid, it showed 756/76T FOs in ORD and SFO as being properly staffed and LAX being slightly understaffed.

The best case for you to move would be for the company to decide to keep the 13 76Ts and I don't know the likelihood of that.
That's exactly what I was thinking as well. Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't we keeping all the 767-300's for longer than planned? I am confused as to which planes are going awar for sure and which planes are now being kept longer.
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Old 04-15-2015, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SUX4U
That's exactly what I was thinking as well. Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't we keeping all the 767-300's for longer than planned? I am confused as to which planes are going awar for sure and which planes are now being kept longer.

From Jan Crew Resources Outlook:

756/76T
We anticipate that we will begin to convert our 76T fleet to the 756 fleet in the fall of 2015. United has made a decision to retain 35 767-300 aircraft, along with 15 757-200 "p.s." aircraft. These aircraft will be reconfigured to fly summer 2016 as aircraft belonging to the 756 fleet. This implies that our 76T pilots will become 756 qualified between now and summer 2016.
The other legacy 76Ts will leave the fleet rather quickly, and we anticipate flying a very limited number of them in 2016.


You can find it by logging on to flyingtogether > Flight Operations > Staffing > Crew Resources Outlook (top link on page)



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More to every class is what it sounded like.
That's good to hear.
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Old 04-16-2015, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
From Jan Crew Resources Outlook:

756/76T
We anticipate that we will begin to convert our 76T fleet to the 756 fleet in the fall of 2015. United has made a decision to retain 35 767-300 aircraft, along with 15 757-200 "p.s." aircraft. These aircraft will be reconfigured to fly summer 2016 as aircraft belonging to the 756 fleet. This implies that our 76T pilots will become 756 qualified between now and summer 2016.
The other legacy 76Ts will leave the fleet rather quickly, and we anticipate flying a very limited number of them in 2016.


You can find it by logging on to flyingtogether > Flight Operations > Staffing > Crew Resources Outlook (top link on page)


That's good to hear.
Good to see you found the up to date answer versus your previous comment:

For the 757/767, it's difficult to guess but I don't think it's good. The 76T is a dying fleet and the 756 will probably be the next to be retired. If the company sticks with their fleet plan of retiring 13 76Ts (9% of the 757/767 fleet) this year, there should be displacements off of the aircraft.
The only thing being retired are the non PS Pratt 757's. And most of those have already left the fleet. Except for perhaps a particular base (Den?) don't expect to see any displacements off the 767, as the airframes will be here for a while.

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Old 04-16-2015, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by C11DCA
Good to see you found the up to date answer versus your previous comment:



The only thing being retired are the non PS Pratt 757's. And most of those have already left the fleet. Except for perhaps a particular base (Den?) don't expect to see any displacements off the 767, as the airframes will be here for a while.

DC
I was saying the same thing; just poorly worded in my first comment. The airframes will probably be around for a while, but are almost certainly going to be the next fleet that is retired. And all it takes for management to accelerate getting rid of those airframes is a sweet deal from a manufacturer or lessor.

But the big picture for the conversation with Sux4U: If you're a newhire on the 757/767 fleet, it will take longer to lateral to other bases than if you're on 737 or 320.
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Old 04-16-2015, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by C11DCA
Good to see you found the up to date answer versus your previous comment:



The only thing being retired are the non PS Pratt 757's. And most of those have already left the fleet. Except for perhaps a particular base (Den?) don't expect to see any displacements off the 767, as the airframes will be here for a while.

DC

13- Pratt 757s leaving the fleet this year. That will leave 20, with 15 (PS) being the end state. Could see some displacements after summer.

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Old 04-16-2015, 12:46 PM
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Anyone get a May 12th class yet?
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Old 04-16-2015, 01:48 PM
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73dot7. I am curious about the same thing. Interviewed March 16, and CJO on the 25th with high 2xxx last four of SS. Hope to here something soon.
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Old 04-16-2015, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mtmyers95
73dot7. I am curious about the same thing. Interviewed March 16, and CJO on the 25th with high 2xxx last four of SS. Hope to here something soon.
Sounds like you should be first in line for the 12th. Keep us posted. I interviewed the following week and have a low social so am probably on the cusp between 12 and 19th.

Hoping they call for the 12 th this week.
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