SLI June 18th
06-21-2013, 07:41 PM
#71
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While the CAL side used half of one tenet, sort of (class, except CAL thinks UAL is overstaffed, so they'll only include some of their Cap and some of their F/O).
The CAL list is absolutely dramatically MORE extreme than the Nic award that ALPA policy was changed to avoid ever happening again. The idea that this award will even remotely resemble the CAL proposal is patently absurd. Read the testimony from 6/20. Unreal. CAL overplayed a weak hand, IMHO.
Scott
The CAL list is absolutely dramatically MORE extreme than the Nic award that ALPA policy was changed to avoid ever happening again. The idea that this award will even remotely resemble the CAL proposal is patently absurd. Read the testimony from 6/20. Unreal. CAL overplayed a weak hand, IMHO.
Scott
06-21-2013, 07:56 PM
#72
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Position: The GF of FUPM
Posts: 3,073
Who exactly are the three tenants?
Manny, Moe and Jack?
Curly, Moe and Larry?
Billy, Frank and Dusty?
Everett, Pete and Delmar?
Jeffrey, Walter and Donny?
Don, Martin Luther and Rodney?
David, Stephen and Graham?
Chico, Harpo and Groucho?
Seeno, Hearno and Speakno?
Placido, Jose and Luciano?
Hoss, Little Joe and Adam?
Billy Jo, Mike and Tre?
Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
Eric, Ginger and Jack?
Jimi, Noel and Mitch?
I'm confused.
Manny, Moe and Jack?
Curly, Moe and Larry?
Billy, Frank and Dusty?
Everett, Pete and Delmar?
Jeffrey, Walter and Donny?
Don, Martin Luther and Rodney?
David, Stephen and Graham?
Chico, Harpo and Groucho?
Seeno, Hearno and Speakno?
Placido, Jose and Luciano?
Hoss, Little Joe and Adam?
Billy Jo, Mike and Tre?
Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
Eric, Ginger and Jack?
Jimi, Noel and Mitch?
I'm confused.
06-21-2013, 08:12 PM
#73
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Look at Southwest. Very similar staffing model. They just send out letters saying they need help from the company and the pilots happily help out for 200%. The pilots want the company to succeed while earning good coin.
06-21-2013, 08:38 PM
#74
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Joined APC: Nov 2010
Position: 737 Cap
Posts: 451
Who exactly are the three tenants?
Manny, Moe and Jack?
Curly, Moe and Larry?
Billy, Frank and Dusty?
Everett, Pete and Delmar?
Jeffrey, Walter and Donny?
Don, Martin Luther and Rodney?
David, Stephen and Graham?
Chico, Harpo and Groucho?
Seeno, Hearno and Speakno?
Placido, Jose and Luciano?
Hoss, Little Joe and Adam?
Billy Jo, Mike and Tre?
Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
Eric, Ginger and Jack?
Jimi, Noel and Mitch?
I'm confused.
Manny, Moe and Jack?
Curly, Moe and Larry?
Billy, Frank and Dusty?
Everett, Pete and Delmar?
Jeffrey, Walter and Donny?
Don, Martin Luther and Rodney?
David, Stephen and Graham?
Chico, Harpo and Groucho?
Seeno, Hearno and Speakno?
Placido, Jose and Luciano?
Hoss, Little Joe and Adam?
Billy Jo, Mike and Tre?
Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
Eric, Ginger and Jack?
Jimi, Noel and Mitch?
I'm confused.
06-21-2013, 09:42 PM
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Posts: 419
I agree and my SWA peers agree except they all say they're properly staffed. I can't find a CAL pilot that thinks we are properly staffed to include the VJM rules.
06-22-2013, 12:03 AM
#76
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Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 52
Who exactly are the three tenants?
Manny, Moe and Jack?
Curly, Moe and Larry?
Billy, Frank and Dusty?
Everett, Pete and Delmar?
Jeffrey, Walter and Donny?
Don, Martin Luther and Rodney?
David, Stephen and Graham?
Chico, Harpo and Groucho?
Seeno, Hearno and Speakno?
Placido, Jose and Luciano?
Hoss, Little Joe and Adam?
Billy Jo, Mike and Tre?
Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
Eric, Ginger and Jack?
Jimi, Noel and Mitch?
I'm confused.
Manny, Moe and Jack?
Curly, Moe and Larry?
Billy, Frank and Dusty?
Everett, Pete and Delmar?
Jeffrey, Walter and Donny?
Don, Martin Luther and Rodney?
David, Stephen and Graham?
Chico, Harpo and Groucho?
Seeno, Hearno and Speakno?
Placido, Jose and Luciano?
Hoss, Little Joe and Adam?
Billy Jo, Mike and Tre?
Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
Eric, Ginger and Jack?
Jimi, Noel and Mitch?
I'm confused.
06-22-2013, 04:42 AM
#77
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Position: Bigfoot
Posts: 1,077
06-22-2013, 06:07 AM
#78
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Posts: 2,639
It's an awesome staffing model for the pilot that lives for $$$$, but perhaps less so for the schmuck looking to drop a trip, trade days, or (gasp!) take vacation when the kids are out of school.
06-22-2013, 06:13 AM
#79
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Posts: 419
Must have been my imagination that almost every CAL pilot I fly or talk with mentions not being staffed properly. You can knock it off...your boy Fred is gone.
It is almost July...training events are cancelled often. Pull up the reserve pools and look around.
It is almost July...training events are cancelled often. Pull up the reserve pools and look around.
06-22-2013, 08:10 AM
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Position: B777 CA - SFO
Posts: 730
Who exactly are the three tenants?
Manny, Moe and Jack?
Curly, Moe and Larry?
Billy, Frank and Dusty?
Everett, Pete and Delmar?
Jeffrey, Walter and Donny?
Don, Martin Luther and Rodney?
David, Stephen and Graham?
Chico, Harpo and Groucho?
Seeno, Hearno and Speakno?
Placido, Jose and Luciano?
Hoss, Little Joe and Adam?
Billy Jo, Mike and Tre?
Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
Eric, Ginger and Jack?
Jimi, Noel and Mitch?
I'm confused.
Manny, Moe and Jack?
Curly, Moe and Larry?
Billy, Frank and Dusty?
Everett, Pete and Delmar?
Jeffrey, Walter and Donny?
Don, Martin Luther and Rodney?
David, Stephen and Graham?
Chico, Harpo and Groucho?
Seeno, Hearno and Speakno?
Placido, Jose and Luciano?
Hoss, Little Joe and Adam?
Billy Jo, Mike and Tre?
Emerson, Lake and Palmer?
Eric, Ginger and Jack?
Jimi, Noel and Mitch?
I'm confused.
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