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Old 06-17-2013, 01:47 PM
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So how is it that CAL saved UAL when they are on a list of highest probability of declaring bankruptcy as of Sept 2009?

Audit Integrity Announces Results of Corporate Bankruptcy Study; Identifies Companies Most Likely to Declare Bankruptcy | Reuters
"Audit Integrity Announces Results of Corporate Bankruptcy Study; Identifies Companies Most Likely to Declare Bankruptcy



Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:00am EDT

Media and Transportation Sectors Have the Highest Number of Companies at Risk LOS ANGELES--(Business Wire)-- In response to amplified concern in the market for risk related to corporate insolvency, Audit Integrity, an independent financial research and risk modeling firm, today released the results of its bankruptcy model research and has identified 20 corporations, with $1 billion or more in market capitalization, that have the highest probability of declaring bankruptcy in the next twelve months. According to the U.S. Bankruptcy Courts, the number of business bankruptcy filings during the first six months of the year rose 64 percent over the first half results in 2008. With the increased incidence of company failures, corporate stakeholders such as insurance companies, auditing professionals, procurement executives and regulators, find corporate survival to be a critical risk issue. Current approaches to determining bankruptcy risk generally fail to react quickly to changes to the economic environment, and do not factor in the potential for corporate fraud. By incorporating these risk factors into the Audit Integrity Business Risk Model, this new approach has been found to greatly improve the identification of companies at risk of bankruptcy. Against the most widely used bankruptcy model, the Altman Z-Score, the Audit Integrity bankruptcy Risk Model results have been more than 20 percentage points higher in predicting bankruptcy. The results from Audit Integrity`s bankruptcy research indicate that the media and transportation industries are especially vulnerable. Of the over 2,500 U.S. corporations receiving bankruptcy risk scores from Audit Integrity, TV and Publishing companies were found to be over four times as risky as other companies, while automobile and airline industries were just slightly less risky. The findings suggest that fraudulent accounting and poor governance impact bankruptcy risk in addition to more generally accepted factors such as measures of liquidity, leverage and profitability. "Evidence shows that bankruptcy filings tend to lag after an economic downturn so its extremely important that investors and those concerned with the risks around corporate failure mitigate their exposure to companies likely to collapse," said Jack Zwingli, CEO of Audit Integrity. "Market volatility and sudden downturns such as we have been experiencing must be factored into bankruptcy risk. Fraud also plays a part, especially when companies are faced with survival decisions. These are the toughest companies to identify because, on paper, they appear solvent. Our model uncovers the underlying fraud that can be behind seemingly healthy financial statements." Audit Integrity has identified the following companies that have the highest probability of declaring bankruptcy among publicly traded firms with more than $1 billion market capitalizations: * Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. * Amkor Technology, Inc. * AMR Corporation * Apartment Investment and Management Co. * CBS Corporation * Continental Airlines, Inc. * Federal-Mogul Corporation * Hertz Global Holdings, Inc. * Interpublic Group of Companies, Inc. * Las Vegas Sands Corp. * Liberty Media Corporation (Capital) * Macy's, Inc. * Mylan Inc. * Oshkosh Corporation * Redwood Trust, Inc. * Rite Aid Corporation * Sirius XM Radio Inc. * Sprint Nextel Corporation * Textron Inc. * The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company To get the full list of companies Audit Integrity has identified, including small-cap and mid-cap firms, please visit www.auditintegrity.com or call 877-880-8820. About Audit Integrity Founded in 2002, serving investors, insurers, auditors and corporate finance professionals, Audit Integrity is a leading independent research firm that rates more than 12,000 public companies in North American and Europe based on their corporate integrity. In addition to its flagship Accounting and Governance Risk (AGR) ratings, Audit Integrity also forecasts bankruptcy risk, class action litigation risk, material financial restatement risk, and equity performance risk. The statistical correlation of these ratings has been confirmed by internal and third-party tests. Audit Integrity has offices in Los Angeles and New York City. For more information, please visit www.auditintegrity.com. Starkman & Associates Jeffrey Richardson, 212-252-8545, ext. 11 [email protected] or James Cheston, 212-252-8545, ext. 22 [email protected]


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So how is it that CAL saved UAL when they are on a list of highest probability of declaring bankruptcy as of Sept 2009?

Audit Integrity Announces Results of Corporate Bankruptcy Study; Identifies Companies Most Likely to Declare Bankruptcy | Reuters
"Audit Integrity Announces Results of Corporate Bankruptcy Study; Identifies Companies Most Likely to Declare Bankruptcy



Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:00am EDT

Media and Transportation Sectors Have the Highest Number of Companies at Risk LOS ANGELES--(Business Wire)-- In response to amplified concern in the market for risk related to corporate insolvency, Audit Integrity, an independent financial research and risk modeling firm, today released the results of its bankruptcy model research and has identified 20 corporations, with $1 billion or more in market capitalization, that have the highest probability of declaring bankruptcy in the next twelve months. According to the U.S. Bankruptcy Courts, the number of business bankruptcy filings during the first six months of the year rose 64 percent over the first half results in 2008. With the increased incidence of company failures, corporate stakeholders such as insurance companies, auditing professionals, procurement executives and regulators, find corporate survival to be a critical risk issue. Current approaches to determining bankruptcy risk generally fail to react quickly to changes to the economic environment, and do not factor in the potential for corporate fraud. By incorporating these risk factors into the Audit Integrity Business Risk Model, this new approach has been found to greatly improve the identification of companies at risk of bankruptcy. Against the most widely used bankruptcy model, the Altman Z-Score, the Audit Integrity bankruptcy Risk Model results have been more than 20 percentage points higher in predicting bankruptcy. The results from Audit Integrity`s bankruptcy research indicate that the media and transportation industries are especially vulnerable. Of the over 2,500 U.S. corporations receiving bankruptcy risk scores from Audit Integrity, TV and Publishing companies were found to be over four times as risky as other companies, while automobile and airline industries were just slightly less risky. The findings suggest that fraudulent accounting and poor governance impact bankruptcy risk in addition to more generally accepted factors such as measures of liquidity, leverage and profitability. "Evidence shows that bankruptcy filings tend to lag after an economic downturn so its extremely important that investors and those concerned with the risks around corporate failure mitigate their exposure to companies likely to collapse," said Jack Zwingli, CEO of Audit Integrity. "Market volatility and sudden downturns such as we have been experiencing must be factored into bankruptcy risk. Fraud also plays a part, especially when companies are faced with survival decisions. These are the toughest companies to identify because, on paper, they appear solvent. Our model uncovers the underlying fraud that can be behind seemingly healthy financial statements." Audit Integrity has identified the following companies that have the highest probability of declaring bankruptcy among publicly traded firms with more than $1 billion market capitalizations: * Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. * Amkor Technology, Inc. * AMR Corporation * Apartment Investment and Management Co. * CBS Corporation * Continental Airlines, Inc. * Federal-Mogul Corporation * Hertz Global Holdings, Inc. * Interpublic Group of Companies, Inc. * Las Vegas Sands Corp. * Liberty Media Corporation (Capital) * Macy's, Inc. * Mylan Inc. * Oshkosh Corporation * Redwood Trust, Inc. * Rite Aid Corporation * Sirius XM Radio Inc. * Sprint Nextel Corporation * Textron Inc. * The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company To get the full list of companies Audit Integrity has identified, including small-cap and mid-cap firms, please visit www.auditintegrity.com or call 877-880-8820. About Audit Integrity Founded in 2002, serving investors, insurers, auditors and corporate finance professionals, Audit Integrity is a leading independent research firm that rates more than 12,000 public companies in North American and Europe based on their corporate integrity. In addition to its flagship Accounting and Governance Risk (AGR) ratings, Audit Integrity also forecasts bankruptcy risk, class action litigation risk, material financial restatement risk, and equity performance risk. The statistical correlation of these ratings has been confirmed by internal and third-party tests. Audit Integrity has offices in Los Angeles and New York City. For more information, please visit www.auditintegrity.com. Starkman & Associates Jeffrey Richardson, 212-252-8545, ext. 11 [email protected] or James Cheston, 212-252-8545, ext. 22 [email protected]


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Wow! Earth-shattering! How come the merger committee didn't have this?
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Originally Posted by tailwheel48
Wow! Earth-shattering! How come the merger committee didn't have this?
Weren't you just on the "other" thread jaw jacking about how UAL wasn't going to last another year and CAL was growing "organically"?
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Weren't you just on the "other" thread jaw jacking about how UAL wasn't going to last another year and CAL was growing "organically"?
I couldn't find the 'sarcasm' smiley! Anybody who thinks that list has any significance... well I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you! And wasn't UAL about four years into their bankruptcy when that list came out?
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Originally Posted by tailwheel48
I couldn't find the 'sarcasm' smiley! Anybody who thinks that list has any significance... well I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you! And wasn't UAL about four years into their bankruptcy when that list came out?
If you get the BK done correctly, you only have to do it once
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Originally Posted by tailwheel48
And wasn't UAL about four years into their bankruptcy when that list came out?
FYI, UAL exited BK in 2006, the article is dated 2009.

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Wow! Earth-shattering! How come the merger committee didn't have this?
Who says they don't??? After all, UAL's rebuttal doesn't start until tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by tailwheel48
I couldn't find the 'sarcasm' smiley! Anybody who thinks that list has any significance... well I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you! And wasn't UAL about four years into their bankruptcy when that list came out?
Well not to get too technical but UAL came out Bankruptcy in 2006. Lets not get into CAL's dark and ugly past as it's about as nasty as it gets.

I think we'd all be better served to look towards the future.
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I wonder how many of those companies actually declared BK?
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United Airlines, Inc. in 2009 didn't make the list because its Market Capitalization was well below $1 billion. Even its shareholders of that time knew it was a dying company. Did you forget that, or were you not around then Staller?
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I wonder how many of those companies actually declared BK?
Well AMR for starters. This is too good to be true. I don't know if our boys have this yet, but I'll be emailing a link as soon as I get home.

Has anyone seen the stickers in IAH? They say something like "Make no mistake CAL saved UAL". Are CAL pilots really walking around with stickers like that?
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