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Old 06-18-2013, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisJT6
It doesn't matter you're flying a huge chunk of our flying from our Hubs feeding our huge WB fleet.
Good for you and your great job!
"huge WB fleet", do you mean the Jumbo!

Our hubs our flying. Hey you guys caved on scope like no other. The regional jets took your flying a long, long time ago.

... so how junior did Houston go for you guys? What about the real international destinations you now fly to Europe??

Can we find a new record? please.
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisJT6
It doesn't matter you're flying a huge chunk of our flying from our Hubs feeding our huge WB fleet.
Good for you and your great job!
I think your theory has been put to rest in the testimony from both sides. Every time I fly to EWr, Iah, and Cle, I see a ton of A320's.
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:24 PM
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Hey you guys caved on scope like no other. The regional jets took your flying a long, long time ago.
We caved on scope like you guys hired Frank Lorenzo, defeated ALPA populated your airline with a 100% scab pilot force and sunk the bar for the whole industry. Right?
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Old 06-18-2013, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
We caved on scope like you guys hired Frank Lorenzo, defeated ALPA populated your airline with a 100% scab pilot force and sunk the bar for the whole industry. Right?
Are you serious? Comparing what happened in 83 to what UAL has done in the last decade? Geez, now I see where this sense of entitlement comes from... Talk about grasping...
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Old 06-18-2013, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Olecal
Are you serious? Comparing what happened in 83 to what UAL has done in the last decade? Geez, now I see where this sense of entitlement comes from... Talk about grasping...
The ONLY thing that I am comparing is the ridiculousness of these two comments. YOU guys didn't "hire" Frank Lorenzo anymore than we guys "caved" on scope. Either case it was circumstances out of our (meaning pilot groups) control.

Please explain to me "this" sense of entitlement?
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Old 06-19-2013, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by routemap
"huge WB fleet", do you mean the Jumbo!

Our hubs our flying. Hey you guys caved on scope like no other. The regional jets took your flying a long, long time ago.

... so how junior did Houston go for you guys? What about the real international destinations you now fly to Europe??

Can we find a new record? please.
Just looking 777s alone...still huge in comparison.

Our RJ flying was ratio maxed before the merger and your awesome passenger fleeing scope (everyone hates 50 seaters, see any monthly Express Customer Service Index, fyi DAL doesnt screw so many pax in em) died when you merged with United.

You really think the "jobs" flying out of 6 UAL hubs compared to our flying in your 3 is making your point? And the facts were presented clearly in testimony. Glenn gave you our jobs and if I was you I would be embarrassed about that fact and a little less boisterous about it.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisJT6
Just looking 777s alone...still huge in comparison.

Our RJ flying was ratio maxed before the merger and your awesome passenger fleeing scope (everyone hates 50 seaters, see any monthly Express Customer Service Index, fyi DAL doesnt screw so many pax in em) died when you merged with United.

You really think the "jobs" flying out of 6 UAL hubs compared to our flying in your 3 is making your point? And the facts were presented clearly in testimony. Glenn gave you our jobs and if I was you I would be embarrassed about that fact and a little less boisterous about it.
So is that was is bothering you seeing 737s in YOUR hubs? We were ready to open up LAX it was only a matter of time.

Should your furloughed pilots also be embarrassed? Should you be embarrassed for flying out of Houston, and taking our Europe destinations?

We had a transition agreement in place. One negotiated to protect the block hours on both sides of the fence. I know you only see 737s in YOUR bases but remember there are a lot of furloughed pilots flying those machines. You can thank Continental Airlines for bring those jobs to the merger.
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Originally Posted by routemap
So is that was is bothering you seeing 737s in YOUR hubs? We were ready to open up LAX it was only a matter of time.

Should your furloughed pilots also be embarrassed? Should you be embarrassed for flying out of Houston, and taking our Europe destinations?

We had a transition agreement in place. One negotiated to protect the block hours on both sides of the fence. I know you only see 737s in YOUR bases but remember there are a lot of furloughed pilots flying those machines. You can thank Continental Airlines for bring those jobs to the merger.
A TPA that UAL MEC has to fight everyday to try and enforce. You'd have HUBs right now everywhere otherwise. You should be embarrassed about the TPA handling as well.
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Originally Posted by larryiah
Yep. The 70 seat RJs that they love so much were immediately in our hubs.
RIGHT! A lot of good your 50 seat scope is post merger...it died when the CO code died.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
The ONLY thing that I am comparing is the ridiculousness of these two comments. YOU guys didn't "hire" Frank Lorenzo anymore than we guys "caved" on scope. Either case it was circumstances out of our (meaning pilot groups) control...
Well played Hoss.
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