Rebuttal Day 3
06-18-2013, 05:30 AM
#92
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Historically speaking, I don't think you will find a merger where they used a date 3 years after the merger for SLI. All the upgrades after that point are meaningless since it was a combined company with the UAL guys being blocked from bidding airplanes being brought on board.
06-18-2013, 06:32 AM
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Historically speaking, I don't think you will find a merger where they used a date 3 years after the merger for SLI. All the upgrades after that point are meaningless since it was a combined company with the UAL guys being blocked from bidding airplanes being brought on board.
Good post untied - it was Jeff working with pierce to fatten up the cal captain ranks for SLI. The arbitrators will see it the way you described. The greed and theft stops with the completion of SLI.
06-18-2013, 06:49 AM
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the message sent with your post reaffirms the "what's mine is mine, and what's yours is mine" mantra prevalent on the UAL side.
06-18-2013, 07:28 AM
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The proposal isn't a "staple" per say, but rather the outcome of a one for one ratio ... which I for one don't deem fair nor equitable, so at least we share that common thought.
06-18-2013, 03:25 PM
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Rhetorical question of course and it is so far fetched that I can't even believe it was proposed by sane, rational people.
06-18-2013, 04:00 PM
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Ah.. no?!
I realize they bring 1400+ guys on furlough. Of Which, a chunk of them are Voluntary Furloughs which in itself is a different category.
I believe that the list should be constructed with Active pilots only.
After which, the furloughs need to be integrated (both sides).
I expect that the UAL Furloughs should be put below the last Active pilot.. whoever he is and whatever side they are from.
HOWEVER..
If that does not happen, my blame will be on the Arbitrators. No one else.
Motch
I realize they bring 1400+ guys on furlough. Of Which, a chunk of them are Voluntary Furloughs which in itself is a different category.
I believe that the list should be constructed with Active pilots only.
After which, the furloughs need to be integrated (both sides).
I expect that the UAL Furloughs should be put below the last Active pilot.. whoever he is and whatever side they are from.
HOWEVER..
If that does not happen, my blame will be on the Arbitrators. No one else.
Motch
My employee number and the percentage next to my name means nothing, it is based on jobs that don't exist.
06-18-2013, 06:21 PM
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I too believe the list should be constructed with only active pilots. We don't even know how many of the LUAL furloughs will ever return and in what numbers. The LUAL list assumes the furloughed pilots will all return and in one wave. So how does that affect the ISL percentages?
My employee number and the percentage next to my name means nothing, it is based on jobs that don't exist.
My employee number and the percentage next to my name means nothing, it is based on jobs that don't exist.
Good for you and your great job!
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