L-United Furlough Number
06-02-2013, 03:13 PM
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You really do live in your own little world, don't you?
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06-02-2013, 03:20 PM
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06-02-2013, 05:18 PM
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06-02-2013, 05:45 PM
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Just to be clear, the pilots flying on the L-CAL side are recalled to United. That flying growth is United flying. Just because the company decided to add the flying back to that side of the equation (because it was cheaper mainly) doesn't mean they weren't recalled.
I find it odd that many CAL pilots want to claim flying for an express carrier as longevity for mainline, and at the same time deny United pilots who are flying for United that same right.
I find it odd that many CAL pilots want to claim flying for an express carrier as longevity for mainline, and at the same time deny United pilots who are flying for United that same right.
7-B. Job Opportunities.
(i) If either Continental or United intends to hire new Pilots, it will first offer
employment to fill such positions in seniority order to Pilots on furlough from the
other Airline. Acceptance or rejection of such an offer or failure to qualify will
not affect a Pilot’s recall rights or placement on the Integrated Seniority List
(which shall be based upon his seniority position at the Pilot’s originating
Airline).(i) If either Continental or United intends to hire new Pilots, it will first offer
employment to fill such positions in seniority order to Pilots on furlough from the
other Airline. Acceptance or rejection of such an offer or failure to qualify will
not affect a Pilot’s recall rights or placement on the Integrated Seniority List
(which shall be based upon his seniority position at the Pilot’s originating
If the "employment offer" doesn't affect a pilot's recall rights, how can it consitute a recall in itself?
06-03-2013, 03:58 AM
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Can't wait for the actual decision to come out from the arb board, that way crazy theories like this will die the death they deserve...
How can a contractually agreed upon furlough protection agreement with a flow down to a subsidiary airline be likened to a merger of two completely opposite airlines with no existing agreement minus the TPA which clearly states the job opportunity and in no way gives credence to longevity. CAL extended an olive branch of employment to those on furlough, nothing more...you retain your recall rights at legacy united and that airline only...sorry, can't have it both ways
How can a contractually agreed upon furlough protection agreement with a flow down to a subsidiary airline be likened to a merger of two completely opposite airlines with no existing agreement minus the TPA which clearly states the job opportunity and in no way gives credence to longevity. CAL extended an olive branch of employment to those on furlough, nothing more...you retain your recall rights at legacy united and that airline only...sorry, can't have it both ways
06-03-2013, 04:45 AM
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Can't wait for the actual decision to come out from the arb board, that way crazy theories like this will die the death they deserve...
How can a contractually agreed upon furlough protection agreement with a flow down to a subsidiary airline be likened to a merger of two completely opposite airlines with no existing agreement minus the TPA which clearly states the job opportunity and in no way gives credence to longevity. CAL extended an olive branch of employment to those on furlough, nothing more...you retain your recall rights at legacy united and that airline only...sorry, can't have it both ways
How can a contractually agreed upon furlough protection agreement with a flow down to a subsidiary airline be likened to a merger of two completely opposite airlines with no existing agreement minus the TPA which clearly states the job opportunity and in no way gives credence to longevity. CAL extended an olive branch of employment to those on furlough, nothing more...you retain your recall rights at legacy united and that airline only...sorry, can't have it both ways
You guys need to sleep more and quit coming up with this stuff - a UAL guy working at cal cannot improve his senority position relative to other UAL guys and cal's regional guys can't improve their senority relative to the regular cal guys.
This argument is due to the cal guys trying to stuff the top of the list with manufactured dates for the RJ guys, like pierce an company. Thus avoiding UAL guys with more actual senority from being placed in front of them on the combined list. You are right about one thing - you can't have it both ways.
Believe it or not the Furloughed United guys have the same recall rights at the New United that they had at the old United - Sorry!
06-03-2013, 04:59 AM
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When the TPA was agreed to both airlines had guys on furlough - This was a 2 way street to protect both pilot groups. So you know what you can do with the olive branch comment -----
You guys need to sleep more and quit coming up with this stuff - a UAL guy working at cal cannot improve his senority position relative to other UAL guys and cal's regional guys can't improve their senority relative to the regular cal guys.
This argument is due to the cal guys trying to stuff the top of the list with manufactured dates for the RJ guys, like pierce an company. Thus avoiding UAL guys with more actual senority from being placed in front of them on the combined list. You are right about one thing - you can't have it both ways.
Believe it or not the Furloughed United guys have the same recall rights at the New United that they had at the old United - Sorry!
You guys need to sleep more and quit coming up with this stuff - a UAL guy working at cal cannot improve his senority position relative to other UAL guys and cal's regional guys can't improve their senority relative to the regular cal guys.
This argument is due to the cal guys trying to stuff the top of the list with manufactured dates for the RJ guys, like pierce an company. Thus avoiding UAL guys with more actual senority from being placed in front of them on the combined list. You are right about one thing - you can't have it both ways.
Believe it or not the Furloughed United guys have the same recall rights at the New United that they had at the old United - Sorry!
enjoy your career...
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