intrepidcv11

And your problem is the first line, you do have a problem enforcing the contract. Unfortunately too many CAL pilots can be counted on to accept frequently giving a pass to the the contract cause the operations gotta go. Our reward for compromising for the operation has been getting stomped on by People Express Flight Ops for three decades. Glad its starting die.

Ottopilot

1. An Air Line Pilot will keep uppermost in his mind that the safety, comfort, and well-being of the passengers who entrust their lives to him are his first and greatest responsibility.
a. He will never permit external pressures or personal desires to influence his judgment, nor will he knowingly do anything that could jeopardize flight safety.
b. He will remember that an act of omission can be as hazardous as a deliberate act of commission, and he will not neglect any detail that contributes to the safety of his flight, or perform any operation in a negligent or careless manner.
c. Consistent with flight safety, he will at all times operate his aircraft in a manner that will contribute to the comfort, peace of mind, and well-being of his passengers, instilling in them trust in him and the airline he represents.
d. Once he has discharged his primary responsibility for the safety and comfort of his passengers, he will remember that they depend upon him to do all possible to deliver them to their destination at the scheduled time.
e. If disaster should strike, he will take whatever action he deems necessary to protect the lives of his passengers and crew.
2. An Air Line Pilot will faithfully discharge the duty he owes the airline that employs him and whose salary makes possible his way of life.
a. He will do all within his powers to operate his aircraft efficiently and on schedule in a manner that will not cause damage or unnecessary maintenance.
b. He will faithfully obey all lawful directives given by his supervisors, but will resist and, if necessary, refuse to obey any directives that, in his considered judgment, are not lawful or will adversely affect flight safety. He will remember that in the final analysis the responsibility for safe completion of the flight rests upon his shoulders.
c. He will not knowingly falsify any log or record, nor will he condone such action by other crew members.
d. He will remember that a full month’s salary demands a full and fair month’s work. On his days off, he will not engage in any occupation or activity that will diminish his efficiency or bring discredit to his profession.
e. He will realize that he represents the airline to all who meet him and will at all times keep his personal appearance and conduct above reproach.
f. He will give his airline, its officers, directors, and supervisors the full loyalty that is their due, and will refrain from speaking ill of them. If he feels it necessary to reveal and correct conditions that are not conducive to safe operations and harmonious relations, he will direct his criticism to the proper authorities within ALPA.
g. He will hold his airline’s business secrets in confidence, and will take care that they are not improperly revealed.

Poppy

And you know this because you are....

Sorry, you are not worth the effort!!!!!!!!!!Q

intrepidcv11

Truth hurts don't it...

"I get the whole idea of enforcing the contract, no problem there. HOWEVER..."

Sentiments like that have made the Friends of Fred's job a cake walk for far too long.

tmac3333

I'm all for enforcing the contract too, but when you have to wait over 2 months to get the money back for your BOB, is it really worth it to keep giving the company interest free loans? I'm still waiting for receipts I sent to the company in January, and sent the email to check on the receipts with no response. Am I missing something here?

Poppy

There is a huge difference between the company failing to, through willfulness or neglect, failing to comply with the UPA, and some poor schmuck caterer who misreads the catering order. If you don't understand the difference, then there is really nothing to discuss.

Staller

The new UAL management has decided the best way to discourage you from requesting contract required reimbursement is to delay or deny payment for food, uniform cleaning, parking, taxi expense.


ALPA negotiated this and has now passed it on to you for action. File a grievance with ALPA and it will join the combined grievances that I understand is over 3,000 waiting to be heard. Better yet file your own grievance with the company and you will likely get it heard before an ALPA grievance hearing. With this many grievance ALPA puts what important to them at the top of the list to be heard and you'll just keep sliding backwards on the list.

Staller

Shouldn't waste my time but you do know the company is responsible for the action of the caterer - mistake or not. Get what you negotiated and nothing less.
You do understand that - Right?

EWRflyr

"This was written almost 2 years ago." Corrected it for you.

I don't think we are surprised at all. It's not like we don't put our foot down on issues as well. This idea that ALL L-CAL pilots are pushovers is laughable.

I highly doubt that!!

I don't blame you and neither do I. However, I have yet to see anything on board that would qualify as proper nourishment other than the bottled water. Still waiting to see some of these more edible crew meal enhancements. As of now, I still don't eat the food on the plane.

oldmako

Much urine, many fans.

Simply inquire if your meal has been boarded as YOU board the plane. If the answer is in the neg make ONE call to ops to check on catering. If they drop the ball stroll into the terminal and secure food. Ignore watch and CSR. Remember to keep your receipt.

The more guys do this, the sooner the problem goes away.